Stephen Tye Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Video of unsafe practices? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Agreed! Nobody should stand in front of a running prop in case they fly off or the model surges forward.. We cannot be sure if that model was really well fixed but it's important to ensure it is. I am guessing that Stephen is a newcomer and has not yet been indoctrinated with safety precautions by other club members! The Mascot was sold by Chart years ago but now it is a DB Sport & Scale kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stephen Tye Posted April 4, 2015 Author Share Posted April 4, 2015 Am currently looking around at club membership, the plane will be flown around June this year at a club, in the hands of a qualified instructor with myself on the buddy system. Thanks for the heads up!... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paul Marsh Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I learned on Mascot, still have it, but a bit fuel-soaked now. However, I have a brand new kit of one in the box, as well as a 3ch Yamamoto. I taught myself to fly on the Yamamoto and Mascot, and still have the original Mascot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly boy3 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I too learned on a Yamamoto. Practically indestructable. Probabably around that time the most favoured trainer. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Scolley Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 There's one thing you need to know that nobody ever seems to tell you. When I first learned, my instructor demonstrated what to do and said, "To turn the model to the left, move the aileron stick over a little." The thing they never mention is - how far is "a little?" When an experienced pilot takes your Mascot up and has got it trimmed out, ask him to show you how to fly circuits. While he's doing that, don't watch the plane, watch the transmitter and see exactly how far (or how little) he moves the sticks. He'll no doubt put in "a little" up elevator after the aileron, so watch this, too. With my Mascot (yes, I learned on one!) the instructor only moved the aileron stick about quarter of an inch. With the recommended control throws, that was enough to start a gentle turn. Your Mascot may be different, so watch what your instructor's doing. Alistair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuban8 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Wonder why MFA decided to use the name of a WW2 Japanese Admiral for their trainer? Very curious choice indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Clever Admiral though. No sex, racism, politics ect on this forum. On a serious note Steven. That thing can do you life changing injuries. It can kill people. If you do not use an instructor ( I note it is the aileron version), it will fly well until you stuff it into the ground, within, I predict 30 seconds of take off. The last prediction assumes you are a natural at this game, and it was trimmed before takeoff. It will then be scrap. You have had fair warning. Fine aircraft, made in their thousands, stick at it, go quietly at it, and stick at it, and you will be rewarded. Bull in a china shop just broke pottery, then went somewhere else. Make your mind up, flyer or bull. This diatribe is powered by Beaujolais, but to misquote Winston Churchill, I will be sober tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stephen Tye Posted April 5, 2015 Author Share Posted April 5, 2015 Recently, I taxied it on a remote field on the South downs near the coast, the ground was bumpy although it looked ok before the plane moved. I thought it would be easy to take off, just accelerate, lift the elevator up, and up up and away.. but it didn't quite happen that way.. I broke 2 props in 2 attempts and the 3rd attempt got the plane off the ground ( for less than 20 seconds) more like 6 seconds before nosediving into the grass. There went prop no.3 and the front end of the plane, plus an engine mounting. Since then I'v rebuilt it and attempted a smoother field take off, and am presently on frontal rebuild no.2. So I'm faced with 2 choices. 1. keep trying at the risk of more repairs or 2. club, Instructor etc. It's highly likely i will be going for option 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Tye Posted April 5, 2015 Author Share Posted April 5, 2015 Am currently thinking of painting my flight tool box green with a white cross on it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masher Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Nah......... paint it red so the blood stains don't show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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David Davis Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Posted by Stephen Tye on 05/04/2015 09:28:45: Recently, I taxied it on a remote field on the South downs near the coast, the ground was bumpy although it looked ok before the plane moved. I thought it would be easy to take off, just accelerate, lift the elevator up, and up up and away.. but it didn't quite happen that way.. I broke 2 props in 2 attempts and the 3rd attempt got the plane off the ground ( for less than 20 seconds) more like 6 seconds before nosediving into the grass. There went prop no.3 and the front end of the plane, plus an engine mounting. Since then I'v rebuilt it and attempted a smoother field take off, and am presently on frontal rebuild no.2. So I'm faced with 2 choices. 1. keep trying at the risk of more repairs or 2. club, Instructor etc. It's highly likely i will be going for option 2. That would be my advice. It looks like you are one of those people who learn the hard way. All I can say is that however remote that field was on the South Downs, it was still a field in one of the most highly populated parts of Great Britain. You will not have been far away from houses, cars and people. Had your model hit something, or even worse someone, I would not like to be standing in your shoes. Flying a model aircraft is not as easy as it looks. You might have got away with a foamy glider or park flyer in that location but a total novice trying to fly an i/c powered trainer is a recipe for disaster. I cannot pull as much rank as Percy but I am a competent flier and a BMFA Club Level Approved instructor. Repair your model, join a club, get insured and take some lessons from an instructor. Oh... and welcome to the hobby! Edited By David Davis on 05/04/2015 09:45:35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Tye Posted April 5, 2015 Author Share Posted April 5, 2015 Don't worry, plane is grounded until club. I did read and understand but i had to try... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stephen Tye Posted April 5, 2015 Author Share Posted April 5, 2015 Iv got the BMFA membership already.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Tye Posted April 5, 2015 Author Share Posted April 5, 2015 Yes, I'v already began looking around Sussex clubs online. I visited one some time ago when i first bought the model but their fees were higher than normal sites so i was put off as i don't know whether i'll like the hobby yet as i havn't flown anything. Another i'v looked at seems to be under water half of the yr. So am still looking. I will find one, join and take the plane. They can check it all out and not sure whether they will want me to fly their club plane on the buddy fox or my own.. But don't worry... I had to try. I did so and i couldn't do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Tye Posted April 5, 2015 Author Share Posted April 5, 2015 To be honest i'v not found anything that i can't do before.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Engine Doctor Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 " There's none so blind as those who will not see" or listen . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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