Scott Edwards 2 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Welcome to my first attempt at a build log. If you're looking for beautiful model that looks like its been carved by Michelangelo, and painted by Salvador Dali, then take a look at Matt Jones Sea Vixen. If you want to watch an English Electric Cranberry evolve on the cheap from a pile of old balsa wood and a gallon of PVA, then look 'ere The subject is a Cranberry B2 built from the most excellent plan from Andy Blackburn. Only doubled in size (obviously) to make it 86 inches span. This will involve quite a bit of jiggling about, and rethinking how to do things along the way. One more thing - I bought a new house recently and the modelling budget is up there with the Greek deficit. Consequently, this project is Austerity PSS ! On with the first photo .... The classic 'before' shot ..... Edited By Scott Edwards 2 on 14/08/2015 11:28:05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Edwards 2 Posted August 14, 2015 Author Share Posted August 14, 2015 I had to spend the monthly dog food budget on Glue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hopkin Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Please slosh some paint and glue on the workbench its disgustingly pristine..... Looking forwards to the build..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Edwards 2 Posted August 14, 2015 Author Share Posted August 14, 2015 This is how Austerity PSS starts. A plan ponced off a mate, an Airfix kit from Ebay, a kids geometry set and a roll of cheap wallpaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Edwards 2 Posted August 14, 2015 Author Share Posted August 14, 2015 Fuselage is conveniently round, which makes knocking out the formers something my mum could do after her evenings sherry ration. Made by laminating two sheets of 1/8 balsa together with their grain at 90 degrees to each other. I've got a band saw How anyone survives without one is beyond me ! One should be issued to every child on their 5th birthday. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Edwards 2 Posted August 14, 2015 Author Share Posted August 14, 2015 Even though the fuselage is round, its a complex curve on both ends, so the most realistic and cheapest option for this size is planking. Some people hate planking, others love it. I'm somewhere in the middle, but do enjoy seeing beautiful curved shapes emerge from flat balsa. I'm building the fuselage in two halves split vertically, like a giant easter egg. At this scale there is always a bit of shape variance from the plan. Therefore, I build one half as accurately as I can, and then draw around it to use as a template for the second half. This will hopefully minimise differences when they are mated together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Jones Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Ooooh, love it, I built a 110" one years back which Si Cocker is still abusing. Gorgeous shape and wing that's perfect for PSS. Subsribed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Edwards 2 Posted August 14, 2015 Author Share Posted August 14, 2015 Saw pics of your Cranberry Matt and that was one of my influences ! 110 inches though, that's a fuselage over 9 feet long ! Sheesh ! How do you transport that thing ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Jones Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 2 piece fus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Meade Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Signing in for build watching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Cooke Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Nice one Scott, looking good! Will be watching this one develop with interest. Have you a scheme in mind?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Edwards 2 Posted August 14, 2015 Author Share Posted August 14, 2015 The colour scheme jury is still out at the mo, possibly light stone, maybe sea grey/dark green camo, maybe silver ... I'm sure it will emerge with time ! Knocked up some tailplane halves. 2.4 mm skin over 3.2 mm ribbing. Nice and light ! My regular slope is Ivinghoe Beacon, the big slopes like the Orme are a very rare treat, so this things gotta be light. I'm aiming for under 12 lbs, so that's an airframe weight of under 10 lbs plus the inevitable lump of 24 carat lead up front. Tailplane halves have significant dihedral, so have to be built in two halves with an angled ply joiner inserted vertically. I'm trying to make them with elevators that I can cut out, so trailing edge is elevated by half the rib width. Havn't tried that before ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Jones Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Don't forget the Raspberry Ripple scheme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Edwards 2 Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 Andy Blackburn, him who designed this plan, and thoroughly top spiffing chap, has not only redesigned the wings to work better at x2 scale, but also printed me off a set of double sized wing rib patterns ! To ice the cake, he even delivered them personally to me on his new Triumph Bonneville (which I am not jealous of in any way incidentally) You meet the most fabulous people through this hobby, you really do The re-designed wing is an Eppler 205 centre section and Clark Y outer panels. This makes the whole wing flat bottomed, which for an intermediate builder like myself is ace. So, I've spent some quality time with my band saw. Did I say I've got a band saw ? I might have mentioned I have a band saw. I like my band saw. I may have mentioned that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Garsden Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 If its a Cranberry, does that mean it will be ready for Christmas as sauce for the Turkey - it obviously won't be a Turkey, so as I am a complete ignoramus and don't do plane spotting even in Welsh valleys at 3am, can I please have a full size picture of what it will look like? This sounds very interesting and something I want to see at the Orme in October? But which year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Garsden Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I want a band saw, but my mate Keith said that if you want a band saw you have to be prepared to lose fingers? Is it true? Would it mean that you can't type H - there you see - proves I haven't got a band saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Edwards 2 Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 This is the closest I could get to a raspberry ripple Cranberry. I now need to bleach my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braddock, VC Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braddock, VC Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Oops, missed message. Three of these aircraft still operational with NASA, including one that spent 41 years in the arizona desert storage facility. Always fancied a model of one but lacked the skills to pull the stunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devcon1 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Excellent work..... Watching with interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I am watching with interest. Spent a couple of years working on a Maintenance Unit in Germany on Canberra BI8s Even helped dig most of one out of a German field...We left the engines in the bottom of the hole!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kettle 1 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I am watching with interest Scott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Edwards 2 Posted August 17, 2015 Author Share Posted August 17, 2015 I said earlier that I didn't mind planking. I wish to withdraw that statement. It's sending me ever so slightly (more) nutty now. About half way through the right hand fuse half. If anyone tells me I've built two right hand sides haha that's not funny. I know. I've done that before. I've built two right hand wings before too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Last week end, at Lyrham St Annes, there was a WW2 type event, where to 2 replica Spitfires were displayed, along with a collection of old cars, a Military version of the Hughes 500 and Bell Heuy from the Vietnam conflict. All very interesting, but not as interesting as a BAE tent, with a collection of boards of the history of Warton, Salmsbury and Preston ex EE factories. BAE are to be commended in that there representives (or at least one) talked me through the early history in aviation. What really was interesting, was how a company that had been essentially a aviation sub contractor managed to break into the Tier 1 business, when the aircraft industry was contracting . There first order being the Canberra, under Petter as Chief Engineer and how the political game was played to achieve this task. Braddock, i have considered a Martin B57 derivative of the Canberra. My motivation being the bigger wing and bigger wing nacelles. The Bigger wing and nacelles, seem ideal, reducing wing loading, and permitting the possible use of some big DF or easy pusher props, where again the big wing is more favourable to big Lipos. As for the build, it is really good, and I will continue to follow it with great intrest. Edited By Erfolg on 18/08/2015 14:03:43 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Edwards 2 Posted August 20, 2015 Author Share Posted August 20, 2015 I built each stabiliser and elevator in one piece, so I could cut the elevators out. First time I've tried that and it's worked very well ! First time I've built a tail with dihedral too ! It looks pretty cool Overall span of the tail is a tad over 36 inches, it would make a good flying wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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