Cliff 1959 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 I made this video to help encourage some of our club members who think the 'A' test is beyond their flying skills. One member contacted me and said: 'The video certainly removes any 'fear' of the unknown and makes the 'A' certificate look more achievable for beginners like me with a bit of a lack of confidence.' I dare say it's not a perfect example of how to do it but the above quote I think says it all and if it gets members up the patch then that can only be a good thing. PS. It's easier to see the plane when viewing full screen ... click on the YouTube word. Edited By Cliff 1959 on 09/01/2017 09:23:13 Edited By Cliff 1959 on 09/01/2017 09:25:46 Edited By Cliff 1959 on 09/01/2017 09:26:41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essjay Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 A commendable effort, however I noticed on several occasions you flew behind the pilot line, and on one occasion actually flew directly overhead the pilot position. I'm not an examiner, but I think that would be a no-no! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jenkins Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Cliff - a good initiative. However, there is no requirement to demonstrate a stall for the A Cert. A good place to point students to are the Guidance Notes for the A Certificate which are on the BMFA Website and can be found here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Cliff, nice idea and anything to show that the A test is not a formidable obstacle must be good... However, you seem to have made it more involved than necessary! There is no requirement for a stall demonstration in the Power A. I think you should also have emphasised the need for lookout and calling manouevres in your text notes. In terms of the flying, I would prefer to see a minimal test demonstrated so that people appreciate the few requirements i.e. Take off, fly a rectangular circuit, position for and fly a figure eight*, land, take off, change direction neatly and fly a circuit in the opposite direction, climb to height and perform a deadstick landing - all with appropriate lookout checks and calls emphasised. Note that only one intermediate landing is required. Shown like this, the test should look very much less daunting than some seem to think it is! * This should start from the normal circuit "line", start with a turn away from you to a point flying away from and in line with the pilot, then reverse direction into the first circle, complete at the same crossing point, reverse into the second circle and finish on the same line as the entry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff 1959 Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 Thanks for the comments I'll have another go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyP Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Nice looking model and seems very stable, what is it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuban8 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Well done for the trouble and effort to put a video together. Yes, there are several points that are incorrect, but by following the guidance notes and perhaps having an examiner give the new footage the once-over, you'll have produced a really useful resource. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff 1959 Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 I'm rendering a new video now, the flight sim used was 'Realflight 7.5', flying a 'Sig Seniorita' at the 'Carl Henson' Field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuban8 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Look forward to seeing the result, surprising that very little has been done like this before.Edited By Cuban8 on 09/01/2017 15:08:03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff 1959 Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 Ok, here's my second attempt, hopefully I've got it right this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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john stones 1 - Moderator Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Let's skip the B and go straight to the C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 It certainly succeeds in the aim of showing how straight forward the test flying should be. I'm going to get a bit picky here as it has great potential as a training demonstration. I would be asking that candidate to repeat the figure of eight rather closer than it was done and aiming to make the crossover point much more central. While it was flown safely and the A test requires less precision than the same manouevre flown on a B test, there isn't a massive amount of latitude for the crossover and it wasn't easy to assess how much height variation there was (possibly less so in real life) - it should be performed at circuit height. Again, and in very picky mode this time (I'm starting to feel like a judge on Strictly now!)...could you tidy up the change of circuit direction? It seemed that you started your opposite circuit rather too far out - then it eventually finished on the right line. Could you perhaps do a turn away into half a figure eight after the initial circuit, finishing on the opposite circuit direction and commence the square circuit from that? I would say that it is probably more difficult to fly (and assess) these manouvres accurately on a 2D simulator so other examiners' opinions may vary! But well done - and it really has the makings of a useful resource. I'd still like to see more emphasis on lookout and calling each manouevre! Edited By Martin Harris on 09/01/2017 16:55:36 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 No comment other than hats off to you Cliff, takes a bit of courage sticking your head above the parapet John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glyn44 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Yep, nice one cliff, You've inspired me to do a "how to crash properly and impress your mates" video Happy flying Glyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Hilton Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 I'm an examiner and that was a pass for me .The figure of eight wouldn't be good enough for a B though Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff 1959 Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 Well, I think that was worth it, yes I agree on your 'Strictly' comments Martin, but it achieves what I wanted it to achieve, that is showing learners that it's easier to see it done than read how to do it. As for doing a 'B' video I'll have to practice a bit more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Very good Cliff - and an excellent idea! Very useful. BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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