GONZO Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Steve J, do you not get what this is about. Drop your prejudice and think. Governments, and those behind them, need to control the flow of information to the public. They need to manipulate, change and eliminate that which runs counter to their narrative. All the MSM(main stream media), papers, radio and TV are controlled. The BBC is no more than a biased propaganda machine. This control allows them to alter and form public opinion in a way that suits them. Drone technology allows for a counter view from behind the 'line' from a vantage point that could not be achieved any other way allowing the 'official' narrative to be challenged. It also allows light to be shone on establishment activities that could not be seen in any other way. Troublingly, it also allows them to mount 'surveillance' on those areas not covered by fixed cameras, vast though they are. Is it any wonder that governments wish to keep this technology under strict control and for their use only. Safety was just to mobilise public opinion, commercial activity was, in the main, to conceal the true agenda. Call me paranoid if you like but in a world where, saying something to a friend which is unintentionally overheard by a third person(stranger) who takes offence, is classed as a crime(hate crime) and can get you sent to jail for up to 6 years. There are plenty more examples, eg since the UK signed the UN migration pact it is a hate crime to speak against mass migration, its part of the agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 I just heard that as well as limpet mines, underwater drones are suspected in the attacks on oil tankers in the Gulf of Oman. Bang (literally) goes Percy's plan to take up boating... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GONZO Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Martin, false flags!!! There are those power blocks that have been 'engineering a crisis' with Iran for some time, they want a war! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gordon Whitehead 1 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 The other weekend my wife and I were walking by the lake in beautiful Buxton Park and Pavilion Gardens and admiring the r/c boats in action there. Then there suddenly appeared a conning tower above the lake surface. Yep. An R/C submarine. We watched it dive back down and then proceed to tour the lake beneath the surface, frequently aiming towards and then passing beneath the other boats. Until Martin's post I didn't know about underwater drones. Watch out Percy. They'll get your signature and money yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GONZO Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Always with the ridicule in place of logical counter argument, really. Here's a rather innocuous, what used to be a wholly government department, the 'nudge' department **LINK** then there is a more 'doubtful' organisation 'common purpose' that recruits members from all walks of life, industry,civil service, judiciary, NHS, politics etc to progress certain ideals **LINK** IIRC only 6 families control all of the papers in the West. I personally know that in July 2018 on a Saturday there was a march in central London of 74,000 people that never got reported, not on national TV or local or the papers. It's naïve to think that we are not controlled. There is much more but its off topic and the post would be pulled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevan Lewis 1 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Cymaz, anna jackman is at Royal Holloway, her e-mail is [email protected] Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymaz Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Posted by stevan Lewis 1 on 16/06/2019 11:08:28: Cymaz, anna jackman is at Royal Holloway, her e-mail is [email protected] Steve Mail sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cymaz Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Posted by Steve J on 16/06/2019 14:50:00: Posted by cymaz on 16/06/2019 11:37:50:\ Mail sent Why? All the emails and letters sent so far seem to have achieved the square root of nothing. I actually suspect that some of them will have been counter-productive. Steve Well, there’s nothing to lose. It might raise some awareness and put the model associations in a good light. Costs nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Don Fry Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Gonzo, to be honest I did not agree with much of what you said, but I agree polititions can be duplicitous. However, to quote, "There are plenty more examples, eg since the UK signed the UN migration pact it is a hate crime to speak against mass migration, its part of the agreement." Is a specific claim, aimed at reinforcing your argument, and is untrue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cymaz Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Steve the email was polite and curtious. Short and to the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymaz Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 ....And a similar reply to my email, Dear Jo and Peter, Thank you for your email - I really appreciate your input. As you may be aware I'm both an active drone researcher, and acting as a Specialist Adviser for the ongoing Inquiry into Commercial and recreational drone use in the UK. In relation to the latter - I'll pass this information on - I've also read the BMFA written evidence submission. Thanks again for your email Best wishes Anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Lewis 3 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Can anyone point me in the right direction to read the BMFA written evidence submission (referenced in the post above)? I looked for it but couldn't find it. Thanks in advance. Edited By Philip Lewis 3 on 17/06/2019 17:24:32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymaz Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 It might be in here , somewhere. I’ve not read it through yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymaz Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 HERE , Parliament TV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Lewis 3 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Posted by cymaz on 17/06/2019 17:35:47: It might be in here , somewhere. I’ve not read it through yet That's the right one, you have to "show all" that was what I missed, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Prop Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Thanks Cymaz. I have just wandered through the document picking out odd submissions (I have the attention span of a gnat) and I was unable to find any from model flyers. Plenty from individual drone flyers, but none from our branch of the sport. I have to admit that I did not know about the work of the committee until the day of the first hearing. I fear that because of that I lost the opportunity to contribute. I thought that the BMFA submission was well rounded and informative. Of all of the submissions that I viewed, our association was the only one (including those from learned bodies) to submit statistics to back up the arguments. Well done BMFA! Lets hope thet the committee can absorb the information and make well informed recommendations as a result. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtime222 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 I read a couple of the other submissions including the one from the BMFA. The others are mostly from the drone perspective It's as though our hobby hasn't existed for... 80+ years? Also, Pork. **LINK** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymaz Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 This link should be in “ conformation, the world really has gone mad”. It refers to all things flying so it’s here... Edited By cymaz on 19/06/2019 19:01:55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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