Alan Gorham_ Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 And if the wing gets damaged in a crash while learning to fly, more repair work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Posted by ASH. on 23/07/2019 15:21:53: My thoughts on this.. If you are building from scratch then it's going to be a 'keeper' so why not have all the 'bells &whistles' in place now to use later. Your first model is like your first love..! Never forgotten and ways thought of fondly... Absolutely right, a great learning exercise. Best not taken too seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Personally I normally use one servo in the middle of the wing. I do tend to tun pushrods out to bellcranks but forget that as it is just my way. On this model go with the original design set up. IT works well. They try to tell you that two servos means that if one servo packs up you still have one. I can tell you that if you only have one aileron working you are in dead trouble. Trust me on this.. With the single servo operating pushrods you can't have that problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nu Me 1 Posted July 23, 2019 Author Share Posted July 23, 2019 Well thanks for all of the comments and suggestions. Its been a quite a lively debate! I don't think changing the plan is beyond my scope of time or expertise. It isn't unaffordable either. I think it would be quite interesting to build it with twin servos. At the moment I still haven't decided which way I am going to go. Yes, it is my first build but I am not phased by the thought of doing it. I am almost at the stage where I will have both wings build. After that the wings are joined and then the Instruction Book have the Ailerons as the next steps. I could leave this and start the fuselage - until I am certain which way I want to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Nu Me, killer response. You, if you persist in this game of blood, you will break enough airframes to learn a lot of techniques. Don't waste passion farting about with altering the design of a proper kit. Get this one up, and down once. Then do it again. That is the goal. We respect your desire to build the airframe. That is actually a really good decision, because ARTF stuff looked good out of the box, but it ages in seconds, and falls apart, and is ultimately an underachieving technology. You are paying a lady in VietNam to gain knowledge you can learn, and she is interested in other goals than the integrity of the airframe. And crack this one, you can crack another one. But get it built, don't mess about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nu Me 1 Posted July 23, 2019 Author Share Posted July 23, 2019 Posted by Don Fry on 23/07/2019 17:42:49: "...And crack this one, you can crack another one..." Thanks Don. I am already liking the look of this Here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Don Fry Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Nu Me, Percy is not normally noted for being subtle. But here he is. That is a nice plane. It's going to cost you couple of hundred hours to make. You MIGHT do a couple of hours before something causes it to hit the ground. If you are happy with this ratio, carry on. I am sorry to pull you back, but the path to the P47 is not easy. I have seen a lot of ex flyers, turn up with a trainer, dreaming of a warbirds, and start building/buying to the dream, and when they have a wrecked model, think/say, I've spent my money/time/passion, and I've got nothing back here. Your next model is an aerobatic trainer. With the same motor. That motor is good for thousands of flights. A clue. Edit. What I'm trying to say, those of us who persist, do so because we are bloody minded enough. Break an airframe, build another. We all dream. But you have to build them faster than you break them. Edited By Don Fry on 23/07/2019 19:51:28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 What Don said. I would add. The trainer is a moped. The warbird, a fireblade. The moped should be cheap, simple, easy, and teach you the ropes. Make it like the instructions say. It is s tool to teach you the game. Plenty of scope for building how you want later in the game. By the time you are ready to ride the fireblade, you will know whether you still want the fireblade - or if maybe you actually want a blackbird instead now you know your mind better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Davis Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 I'd heartily recommend a WOT 4 as the second model Nu Me 1. The Mick Reeves Gangster has its afficianados and is by all accounts a superb kit and flyer, so that could be a good second model too. As for the third model, an Acrowot or one of the classic patternships would take your flying to the next level after which you'd be ready for your P47. Of course there's no reason why you shouldn't buy the P47 kit and build it while your flying improves with intermediate models. Even the real P47 pilots went from the Stearman to the AT6 Harvard before they went on to the Thunderbolt. Edited By David Davis on 24/07/2019 05:43:36 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nu Me 1 Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 Morning all, David - thank you for the information, and my leisure task of the day is to research the models mentioned. Nigel - I was on the verge of abandoning the thread last night - not the build, just the thread - it is not what I intended it to be so, after a nights rest, I have decided to not continue with it. All - thank you all for your comments, information and time. It has helped a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Nu Me don't abandon your thread. It is valuable to your building. Sure you can build from the kit instructions but on the thread you can get all sorts of opinions, some you may want to apply and some you will rightly ignore. Very occasionally two other posters will disagree and have an arguement, this is unfortunate but you can skip their private discussion and possibly (I have never done it) click on "ignore member" althoughI don't know what that does. The main point is that this is YOUR thread so just keep it up. You will get honest help, advice and opinions. Just ignore the petty squabbles that don't apply to the subject matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 As to your desire to build that P47. Well as has been said, it will be a real challenge and you will need an awful lot of flying experience to fly it safely how ever just to give you inspiration below is a picture of a large controlline Bristol Brittania. This was built back in the 50s, it was a contrcol line model. It was the builders first ever modal that he had ever built. Picture taken at the 1956 RAF Championships Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 I totally agree with Peter's comment above. Also with Nigel's & David's earlier posts. Nu Me > have another night's rest if needed, but please reconsider abandoning your thread for the evident reasons Peter explained. You will be grateful later on... Percy > regarding 'apologies', IMHO, you're the one who should present some to Nu Me for converting his build thread into an 'open battlefield'... Requesting some modifications of the CoC also tells a lot about your personality. Cheers to all Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Gentlemen, can I apologise to all of you if my actions have spoiled a perfectly good, and informative thread. Nu Me, I would not take much notice of a pair of grumpy old gits. Carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul d Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Very good of you Don, I've been enjoying this thread, be a shame to see it die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete B Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 I've removed a number of off-topic posts from the thread. If any of you have any differences of opinion, deal with them, privately rather than use any handy thread as a boxing ring. It's rather rude, to say the least Nu Me 1, I'll apologise on behalf of the mods for letting this interfere with a useful, informative build thread. We will keep an eye on things. I'm sure the majority of viewers would prefer that you continue to share the build as you're getting good advice here Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Davis Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Nu Me 1 may I add my voice to all who have asked you to continue the thread. Not only will you be helped by the advice of experienced aeromodellers, even though sometimes it's conflicting advice, but you may also help other novices who have not yet built a model aircraft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyGnome Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Hi Nu Me 1 Totally agree with all those who are asking you to continue. I know that sometimes threads degenerate (often very quickly!) but you may pick up a gem or 2 that helps you; I'm sure that even those who have been building/flying for years often learn something. GG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piers Bowlan Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Posted by Pete B - Moderator on 24/07/2019 09:43:17: +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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