Iris Vlieghe Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Posted by john stones 1 on 23/09/2020 00:44:02: Been busy of late, not missed a post yet though, i'm expecting a top class paint job on this, don't let me down. Hope Iris n the little fella are well. Thank you for the kind wishes John. As Chris mentioned very busy with work and if not work with my hobby (drawing). Don't forget your predictions for the Russian GP... Chris, keep up the good work and if you see Gaston, say hello to him from me... I kind a miss him! Don't take it the wrong way, I am sure that what you are writing here is innovating en full of useful information, but as you know I am far from technical and I just love watching your pictures. They are even better with Gaston in it. Keep on building! Hakuna mata, Iris BRU - BE/ CTR Cheers Control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 My pleasure Iris, dogs done the predictions, growls if I try to do them, he's not wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted September 26, 2020 Author Share Posted September 26, 2020 Thanks for your kind comments, my dear. And, of course, you too, John. As the Russian GP quali was quite early today, I had a session at La Grotte afterwards. Finalizing the wing/fuselage joining with the help of a Kevlar thread pinned at F10 and a small weight to keep it equally tensioned at the LE of rib R13 on both sides. I must be lucky here but my measurements were within 0,3mm. Close enough for me, I guess. I left the pentagonal ply 10mm deeper as to include the wing part and not only the TE stock. IIRC, Phil did it this way, but Dirk did the other way around, having the trapezoidal part at the bottom of the wing… I don’t think it really matters??? Does it? Probably a very ‘common’ step for most of the builders, but for me, joining the wing to the fuse was a real milestone in my Dog build. Hakuna matata & stay safe all Chris BRU - BE / CTR Alignment Control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Sack Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Very tidy indeed Sir ! I shall copy that, with your permission Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Cooke Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Fitting the wing to the fuselage for the first time in any build is always a major milestone! Even if you work for Boeing or Airbus! Looks great btw... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted September 27, 2020 Author Share Posted September 27, 2020 Thank you both, gents. Of course you can use what ever you desire, David. But of course, it's completely at your own risk. No warranty involved whatsoever... Well, I'm not the only one then, Phil. But you're right, I remember now the same kind of feeling I had when I installed my Ultralight Storch wing including the controls - ailerons/flaperons - the first time ever... Cheers Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 Hi to all, Time to build-up that belly pan, then. First thing that scared me a bit was referring to Phil’s measurements with 90mm at the front and 100mm at the back. Totally fine at the front with 92mm, but I had nearly 112mm at the back… Sjeesh… where did it went wrong? What did I do? Nothing, in fact. I only forgot that I enlarged my fuse formers starting ‘heavily’ at the TE of the wing… Panic session over… I split the first layer in two sections along the centerline, bevelling the center join slightly to conform with the dihedral of the wing. I used Deluxe Superphatic here as it is very thin, adheres perfectly to glass epoxy and cures quite quickly. This allowed to continue the layering of the belly. Having a lot of balsa off-cuts since I started the Dog, I opted to use those for the sake of the possible forthcoming balsa ‘problem’. Quite a time since I had a proper Graupner hedgehog anyhow. But now a bit of a sanding session awaiting again… Hakuna matata & stay cool all Chris BRU - BE / CTR Cut-Offs Control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted September 30, 2020 Author Share Posted September 30, 2020 Hello there, With the pins removed, I had a better view of what was next. As the back of the belly pan is quite thick, I thought of having the wing screws’ heads ‘buried’ in. With a drill-through from the top and a hand powered flat wood drill from the bottom, it was easy to get down to the original ply plate. I guess it will not only protect the screw heads from the ground, but will supposedly offer a ‘cleaner’ view of the Dog’s belly when/if ever it gets airborne. I wanted to have a first rough sanding allowing for a better idea of the shape of the fairings to be done later on. Even without squinting too much, I thought that it was looking a lot like the face of Lion King… But then the balsa dust might have possibly reached my already senile neurons… Hakuna matata & stay fine all Chris BRU - BE / CTR Dog King Control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 You really do some beautiful tidy work Chris 👽 and yes I can see the lion king to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Looks like a Saxon warrior to me, nose guard n a beard, Ethlered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Thanks for the detail on the battery box latch Chris (and all the other stuff!). I was also wondering what people have been doing to secure their batteries. Re your comment about lack of blog activity, I'm new to this so haven't wanted to create unnecessary repetition in my blog or unwanted comments/questions in other's blogs. Still trying to work out the protocols... Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 Thank you for commenting, gents. Glad someone else sees the Lion as well, Martian. My first pic looks indeed like sporting a nose guard, John. Could it be that J.R.Kipling was a descendant of the Wessex Kings dynasty some moons ago??? ... You're mostly welcome, Craig. For the latch info or for comments/questions in this thread. That's what a Mass build is all about, I thought. I can only regret that many builders stopped very early with their thread or even never started one... No progress to the Dog though as Iris is having some issues concerning the US 're-organisation' of her job. And the Lady needs some support at the moment. Cheers Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted October 3, 2020 Author Share Posted October 3, 2020 Hello again, Beside assisting the LotH with her employment issues, I went to have a go at the wing seat. I opened up the gap from wing to fuselage side following Dirks method of 'gradual' sanding back till I got an opening of 3mm. After Sellotaping the wing, I filled up the gap with a 3mm wet 'stringer', let it dry and glued it in. The Dog - of course - has very different fillets/fairings at the wing seat than the standard F-86. In fact there are less fairings along the wing seat with quite smaller ones at the TE. I guess I'll just have to sleep on it before attacking the other side... Hakuna matata & stay safe please Chris BRU -BE / CTR Seating Control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 Hi to all still there, After a night of pondering, I thought of just going ahead with the second fuse side as I need to reinforce that part of the fuselage anyhow. I might be regretting later that I didn’t use a thin ply layer for the wing seat before building up the gap. The Great Flyer knows, but unfortunately, I don’t… When the fuselage sides are joined to both F14s and the fairings added, the plan is to glass it all in one go with the fuse halves. I expect it will give it sufficient strength after that. Fingers crossed… Sorry, but no pics as the camera is in better hands at the moment. Hakuna matata & stay careful please Chris BRU - BE / CTR Crossing Fingers Control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iris Vlieghe Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Posted by McG 6969 on 03/10/2020 18:34:54: Hello again, Beside assisting the LotH with her employment issues, I went to have a go at the wing seat. I opened up the gap from wing to fuselage side following Dirks method of 'gradual' sanding back till I got an opening of 3mm. After Sellotaping the wing, I filled up the gap with a 3mm wet 'stringer', let it dry and glued it in. The Dog - of course - has very different fillets/fairings at the wing seat than the standard F-86. In fact there are less fairings along the wing seat with quite smaller ones at the TE. I guess I'll just have to sleep on it before attacking the other side... Hakuna matata & stay safe please Chris BRU -BE / CTR Seating Control The LoTH is thanking you a lot for your help I also see the lion. But then again, I see lots of things all over the place... My sound system on my desk looks like a guy staring at me with open mouth hahaha.... This being said, great job Chris! I am like Falty Towers Manuel from Barcelona: "I know nothing"... about building model planes but I know you and as usual, your approach is well thought of and worked out until the tiniest detail... I know I sometimes tease you with this 'authistic' approach as I call it, but let's face it, sometimes I wish I would be a bit more like you... Keep up the good work! Hakuna and LoT(h)s more, - Iris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 Thanks for the kind words, lady. I must say that your 'sound system' guy looks quite 'cute' staring at you... As soon as it will be possible, I'll concentrate on the Dog again. That wing seat Aliphatic glue must be well cured now. I've got myself a new 'toy' as well now in the shape of a Creality Ender 3 Pro 3D printer. Still a lot to read, to build up and try to understand. But I'll get slowly into it, combining it with the Dog... Cheers & stay careful, gents Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 Hello again, I must admit I’ve been a bit distracted by my new toy. Assembling of the Ender 3 has been quite straight forward but I’m still in a bit of a fight with that Cura slicer app… Back to the Dog then. Both fuselage strips were indeed totally cured. Next is to fill in the cross-grained bits to join the planking with F14 on both sides. Nothing complicated but a lot of measuring hence a lot slower than normal planking… Hakuna matata & stay safe all Chris BRU - BE / CTR Cura Control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 Hello out there, I thought naively that one session at La Grotte would get this job cleared. Nope… I needed two full sessions, being very probably a ‘very slow’ apprentice… The port side has been roughly sanded while the starboard one will be next when the Aliphatic is dry. Apologies for the pics being slightly out of focus, but I guess the poor light gave a quite narrow depth of field. Are we really getting some autumn/winter weather now? … Hakuna matata & stay very careful all Chris BRU - BE / CTR Slow Apprentice Control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 Hi there, I made a start at the LE fairings for the Dog. Looking at build pics from other forumites seemed to be a waste of time as the Dog’s fuselage formers are ‘fatter’ than the F-86 ones. Also, my belly pan is different for the same reasons… ppfff… I’ll get there in the end but spending two sessions now in La Grotte with nothing to show isn’t really motivating. While the first glued bits were prepared, glued and drying, I made a start to draw up the Sauce application and painting jig for the wing - trying to copycat Phil’s version - until I realized that I haven’t any proper wood to build it… Some days, really… Hakuna matata & stay careful Chris BRU - BE / CTR Motivation Control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted October 15, 2020 Author Share Posted October 15, 2020 Hello again, I’m still struggling with the wing LE fairings as everything is so different. The different fuse and belly pan made me decide to have the front of the fairing slightly built up at the bottom of the fuse. It seems to correspond with the few pics I have from the underside of the Dog. The wing side fairings were started with a 0,8mm ply plate, left to dry and built up afterwards with cut-offs of aileron stock. We’ll get there in the end but this all seems sóó slow… but one thing ‘s for sure, sometimes Sellotape is an even better friend than Google… The good news is that I found some old bits of wood thanks to a very friendly and helpful neighbour. Hakuna matata & stay safe, gents Chris BRU - BE / CTR Build Up Control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted October 17, 2020 Author Share Posted October 17, 2020 Hi out there, Not much progress to show, but here’s a better view of the LE fairing without pins. It still looks very crude but there’s still a lot of wood to be removed before it fits the shape of the wing. Lots of secure sanding here but taking it slowly as I really don’t want to start this over again… I started to make the wing jig as well. The old bits of wood aren’t really the right shape/dimensions and are totally dried out, but I’ll manage to ‘bodge’ it using glue instead of nails/screws, I hope. Hakuna matata & stay careful all Chris BRU - BE / CTR Jig Wood Control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Good stuff Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwain Dibley. Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Just remember Chris, you can keep adding and sanding and adding and sanding until you get the desired results. Excellent work to date BTW, still watching with interest, despite being quiet. D.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted October 18, 2020 Author Share Posted October 18, 2020 Thank you both for visiting and certainly for commenting, gents. It really helps my mojo in these 'darker' days... I decided to 'waste' a session to my wing jig. I'm convinced that it will be very helpful in time of bringing up Fred's Sauce and for final painting later. It just looks sóó 'agricultural' that even a primitive neolithic tribe should have done a lot better... I'll very probably have to give it a lick of camo paint before showing it to the universe. Cheers & keep careful, guys Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Sack Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Looking very tidy indeed Sir, I think your nelolithic tribesman would be blown away ! Watching with interest as I will need to follow suite. The more pictures the better, and don't worry about the camo paint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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