william forster Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Are Ben Buckle kits and plans still available? I am interested in the Super Scorpion kit or plan Any help would be appreciated Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 The Super Scorpion plan is on Outerzone. Last week somebody said that BB plans have a problem due to illness. Belair list the Super Scorpion but you don't get the stripwood etc with Belair. However Balsa Cabin and also SLEC had stripwood available recently even when sheet was out of stock. Edited By kc on 17/11/2020 16:30:09 Edited By kc on 17/11/2020 16:34:37 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william forster Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 Thanks for that it explains why no reply to E mail Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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william forster Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 Can anyone advise on a suitable electric set up for the Super Scorpion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engine Doctor Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 They fly well on a 25 ic glow so a 25 equivalent that can swing a 9"or 10 inch prop with a 3 s power supply should be fine. Robot birds should be able to advise . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Posted by william forster on 20/11/2020 10:48:50: Can anyone advise on a suitable electric set up for the Super Scorpion? Go and look on the 4-max website where there is a full specification of equipment needed for the Super Scorpion **LINK** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIMON CRAGG Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Posted by william forster on 20/11/2020 10:48:50: Can anyone advise on a suitable electric set up for the Super Scorpion? Try looking at the "4 MAX" website. LOTS of interesting and useful info on which motor fits what etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenenglish Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Just a remark concerning the above posts. The Super Scorpion plan on Outerzone isn't the Ben Buckle plan. Ben's plan is a 50% enlargement of the original KK Scorpion. The plan on Outerzone has been redrawn, in Slovenia or Slovakia, again based on a 50% enlargement of the KK plan, but with a few minor mods. The result is almost the same as Ben's plan of course. Unfortunately, the draughtsman didn't know that there was never a KK Super Scorpion, so he added a Keil Kraft Kits logo, for "enhanced authenticity" and submitted the plan to SAM USA... No comment. But it's a good plan nevertheless... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william forster Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 Thanks for the replies guys I found the info at 4Max. I have a plan coming via flyer21uk on e bay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwain Dibley. Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Just a reply for BrokenEnglish, with regard to info re the Scorpion plan. This is written on my scorpion plan. Hopefully it's readable. Gordon Murray was killed in action in 1942. D.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenenglish Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Posted by Dwain Dibley. on 20/11/2020 14:55:40: Just a reply for BrokenEnglish, with regard to info re the Scorpion plan. This is written on my scorpion plan. Hopefully it's readable. Gordon Murray was killed in action in 1942. D.D. Yes, those notes were written on the plan by Ben and are common knowledge among the vintage mob. Ben is referring to the original American "Answer" and "Topper" design from 1940 (I think). This had elliptical dihedral, obtained by doping, then supporting the wing at the tips and hanging a weight in the middle, while the dope dried (Yippee!). Note that this "feature" is not retained in the Cambrian kit, which I think uses normal straight dihedral. Thus, most people would consider Albert Hatfull's completely redesigned wing, to give the KK Scorpion, to be a great improvement. The point I was making is that Steve, who runs Outerzone, doesn't publish the Ben Buckle Super Scorpion plan because Colin Buckle is still selling the plan and the kit. However, an Eastern European intellectual decided to invent a Keil Kraft Kits Super Scorpion (which never existed of course) and drew his own plan, which he submitted to SAM US, and this is the plan that is on Outerzone. Cultural nonsense but it's an excellent drawing. The advantage with Ben's original SS plan is that you get all sorts of helpful construction notes on the plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwain Dibley. Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 All interesting stuff, makes a change from Covid/brexit. LOL D.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Davis 2 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Whatever the derivation of the Super Scorpion it does build into a fine flying model, though the build is a bit more involved than a Junior 60 or similar slab sided model. I sold mine, pictured here with a fine-flying ARTF, when someone made me an offer I could not refuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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