P Smith 1 Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) Hi all i have recently been trying to build this model from slec the plan has a lot of information missing like dimmensions of parts listed, It does not seem to show information like what type of wood is used etc I seem to be at a loss with this kit which is a shame considering how much i paid for it! i write here on this forum with the smallest of hopes that someone had allready built this and can give some tips cheers. if no replies then i think im going to try and make a build log here kind regards Paul ok so here's a start Edited April 23 by P Smith 1 spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Don't know if anyone here has built the kit Paul, but ask any questions you have and I'm sure help/advice will be given. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P Smith 1 Posted April 23 Author Share Posted April 23 cheers much appreciated 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Hi Paul - I don’t know what sort of building experience you have but the normal convention is unless stated otherwise or denoted by grain pattern/direction, wood is balsa. Your cowl mount plan extract, for example, shows both the pattern for ply and specifies liteply (rather than the heavier/stronger birch ply generally used for more structural parts. Balsa is often shown with short straight parallel lines, denoting grain direction. Hope I’m not teaching you to suck eggs… P.S. I would have removed the sticker from the balsa as it won’t help the glue adhesion and those generous glue fillet’s won’t add much other than weight. Always worth saving the odd gram wherever possible… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P Smith 1 Posted April 23 Author Share Posted April 23 Hi Martin not at all thank you for the info i have built lots and lots of diffrent dc3s from tony nijuis to ziroli ,so seasoned may be a word lol i am starting with the center section wing ,which has half the fuz attached ,but it doesnt show what the wood for the spars is, either / spruce or stronger balsa ,i would have imagined that if the center section is holding 2 outer panel wings then it must be ply or obechi, in theorey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Can you post pictures of the relevant parts of the plan? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P Smith 1 Posted April 23 Author Share Posted April 23 yes indeed just doing that now cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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P Smith 1 Posted April 23 Author Share Posted April 23 the center section with nacells and side view ive looked everywhere and doesnt say what type of wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyGnome Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) No associated builld article or notes? Edited April 23 by GrumpyGnome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyGnome Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Sarik sell plan and article so may be worth contacting them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P Smith 1 Posted April 23 Author Share Posted April 23 it did come from a magazine ill post a few picks here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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P Smith 1 Posted April 23 Author Share Posted April 23 yes this is all the full kit from sarik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P Smith 1 Posted April 23 Author Share Posted April 23 sorry yes i did say slec it is infact the full kit and plans from sarik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Freeman 3 Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 I would say you need to do what you think is right. I have studied some of Robin designs and the way he builds and am never sure how he manages to build the nice aircraft that he does. The two part fuselage joined with a little piece of wire worries me and also how do you malange to get it all straight with out any gaps! I battle enough just trying to make a decent hatch without gaps. I built Zenair 701 to try and get used to his methods and I modified it to my methods I am used to. I would use hardwood spars for the center section. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P Smith 1 Posted April 23 Author Share Posted April 23 i Chris thank you yes i have ordered the ply spars for this one i thinking and hoping that this is correct the outer wing panels are quite an interesting design like you have to file from 1/2 36 inch long spar to 1/8 at the tip lol , its quite off putting but i feel i need this one as experience lol i have been in a few chats with sarik about this and i must admit im sitting on the verge of building it /or giving up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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P Smith 1 Posted April 23 Author Share Posted April 23 yes the 2 part fuz doesnt seem to connect any where else lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P Smith 1 Posted April 23 Author Share Posted April 23 (edited) test fit !! ok the main spars turned up from slec so it has begun lol Edited April 23 by P Smith 1 addition 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RottenRow Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Sometimes on plans, tucked away somewhere, is a statement such as ‘all wood is balsa unless otherwise specified’; it’s worth looking all over again, in case you missed this. Robin’s models are always of very lightweight construction, and he often uses the split fuselage design that the DC3 has. I used to have a Percival Prentice built from his plans, it flew beautifully but had stress cracks around that fuselage joint, due to the odd heavier than ideal landing causing the joint to try to open up. I intended to add some extra support across the join, but unfortunately the model was involved in a mid-air collision before I got to do that. Looking at the photos in that build article, I would be tempted to add some kind of fixing at the top of the fuselage, across the joint, so that the joint doesn’t try to open up there. Brian. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P Smith 1 Posted April 23 Author Share Posted April 23 (edited) Hi Brian thanks i just have to build it, theres a pull towards doing it, as his planes are very straight forward, and very unique. i like the fact that that its open to upgrading, and adapting and resolving, so i have to look positivly at this one. yes the fuz is fascinating, and will have to be re disigned a touch i recon or like the tony nijhuis dc3, which is supposed to have an elastic band to pull the nose cone on lol cheers Brian maybe a rebuild your end maybe i do remember that kit awesome Edited April 23 by P Smith 1 spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P Smith 1 Posted April 24 Author Share Posted April 24 (edited) update spruce spars center wing now we are getting along Edited April 24 by P Smith 1 addition 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P Smith 1 Posted April 26 Author Share Posted April 26 hi all researching the flap operation now Robin has it seems refrenced 1 servo with bell cranks for the main flaps and outer flaps also this concerns me a bit as the main wings come off. i think i may have to re design here ,maybe using micro servos for the wing flaps ? any help would be appreciated cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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