Garry G Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 In the first part of " Dont't bin it , fix it " theres a refernce the above.Any advice on when to use it but more importantly when not to use it. Garry G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter 'Ivanna Crashalot' Savage Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 when you need strength and can sacrifice weight use aliphatic glue, also if you need a long time to position the part, use aliphatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Garry Wood to wood - Like PVA but less rubbery & can be sanded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy watson Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I find it excellent for gluing areas where there is a lot of surface area- for example 2 sheets together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Hi Gary I use it all the time for general balsa building. It's strong enough, excess can be wiped off with water, you have some time to wiggle things around, and it sands well I use epoxy for joints where more strength is needed, and cyano when I need a quick fix ernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 ERNIE You certainly have time to (and I quote " wiggle things around " as you put it ! Better than ( and i quote again " A quick fix " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 PS Who is Cyano ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Hi Le grincheu Thought you'd know that.....De Bergerac ernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry G Posted August 2, 2009 Author Share Posted August 2, 2009 I thought I had posted a thank you yesterday for all the replies, but it's not here, so thank you again. Must have ticked the wrong box! p.s. Cyano de Bererac nose there's more than one way to skin a cat. Garry G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i12fly Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 I like to mix it.... When balsa bashing you rarely get a perfect fit where you cut the ends and thin cyano doesn't like gaps, so I use aliphatic for strength but with a few strategic dabs of cyano to hold everything in place while the ali goes off. I prefer this to cyano accelerator as it seems to block to hole in my cyano bottle unless I keep hiding it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 Hi Guys, Mixing it is an interesting idea, that I've flirted with from time to time. But, I'm not too sure what I can get away with. I do use aliphatic and cyano, but what about cyano, and epoxy for example? ernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 I use Aliphatic resin for most of my building. When joining flat sheets such as doublers I use Thixofix impact adhesive (Get the match perfect first time or make new parts!) I use very little epoxy. Cyano is only used if something will hold me up and for Cyano mylar hinges. MD Products Procan is best for sticking down canopies etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Nobody has mentioned the trade names of any Aliphatic glues. I remember that in the dim and distant past Bowden sold Crpenters glue, which was a yellowish adhesive. I have not seen it for years. I thought that was Aliphatic. The other issue, for those of us, who have no convienant model shop, which DIY /trade outlets sell it. Erfolg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 I user DeLuxe Products Alipahtic resin. You could phone Galaxy Models for some. Alternatively you could phone Squires on 01243 842424. Buy a big bottle, Cat No 180-140 for 500 grams, buy some other small thing and you get it post free. You will also get an incredible free catalogue of just about every tool you could want plus much more, all at sensible prices.. They sell smaller bottles (112 grams)180-138 But the minimum order is £10 I suspect that the yellwoing carpenters glue could be Aliphatic resin.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry G Posted August 5, 2009 Author Share Posted August 5, 2009 Hi Peter, when you use cyano to stick Mylar hinges do you also pin them as an extra safety measure. I recently bought some furry type and the package stated pinning not necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Hi Garry, is this any use First drill a hole at the centre of where the hinge will be. One on the (say) tailplane, and one on the elevator. Cut the slot, slip the hinge in, and drop thin cyano into the hole so that it wicks around the centre of the hinge. Then, drill through the hinge, pin with a cocktail stick, cut flush, and finish with a little disc of your covering material. ernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Normally I don't pin the furry Cyano hinges and have never had one pull out. Mind you I make sure that the whole hinge is embedded in wood. I always push a pin through the middle of the hinge before fitting, this makes sure that it is equally in each side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 I can see that the pinning is belt and braces. I can also see that it could be seen as solving a problem that should not exist. As long as the slot for the hindge is not excessively wide, the super glue will do all that is necessary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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