john haz Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Who is too frightened to go out in the cold in case their little fingers freeze I think maybe I still have the newbie bug & with only a few months of plane flying under my belt, I am a real "hardy" type that will suffer to get the airtime Sat - minus 1, I had an hour or so at the field Sun - no flying in the field because my mate had a hall for the hli's for the day Mon - Only zero degrees so had another hour Tues - minus 2 but i managed another hour with the lightning & Roo Yes i would rather it was warmer but I still love every minute of it - Do I need therapy ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken anderson. Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 john to late for therapy....................you need more model's.............. ken anderson .ne..1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayCee Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Hi John Yes I would love to have been flying, like you still a bit of a newbie and still got the bug. Unfortunately our club has a strict 'No Solo Flying' rule for health and safety reasons and I just can't tempt anyone else to go JC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Smalley Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 No solo flying thats just silly so if you are a top ace flyer and world champion in F3jgkhmsnfje or whatever you still can't fly on your own !!!! thats sounds daft to me !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Richards Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 No solo flying rule applies at my club as well. I do not agree with it but I can live with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john haz Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 I think if our club adopted that policy, I would quit & find somewhere else. I have a local field (2 miles away) I can use, but it's surrounded by various property that could get damaged, so i travel 12 miles to the field "within fields" that our club uses. Often there alone & as much as I like landing one & putting another straight in the air, I would rather have some company, banter, etc. Of course, being stuck in the grim flat fens, there's lots of land around, but I don't like to fly in parks or across farmers fields, seems a bit rude to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john haz Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 Posted by ken anderson. on 07/12/2010 16:59:25: john to late for therapy....................you need more model's.............. ken anderson .ne..1. That's a good idea Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytilbroke Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I do not agree with a no solo flying rule either unless landowner insists. I will still go flying in the Minus degree temperatures. I do admit to this getting more difficult as my Birth Day gets farther back in time Used to go Duck Shooting down the estuary, I didn't have a dog so down to underpants and swim for them even in weather like this. So age does matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gilder Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Our club also has the "No solo flying" rule. However.............. The rule states that the 2nd person does not have to be a modeller or even a club member... As long as they are there with YOU!! Does make the rule easier to "obey"!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 9 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 If you fly alone and you are not seen did it happen? and if you are seen then you are not alone? like the falling tree does it make a sond if nobody is there to hear it. But seriously you do need to respect club rules and if you dont like them get yourself on the commity and campain to have them changed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 In at least some cases the no solo flying rule in not as daft as it seems. If your flying site is in any way isolated, and you were to have an serious accident - for example a serious arterial cut from a propellor - there would be no one to help you. You would be unconcous before you had any opportunity to summon assistance from an ambulance etc via mobile phone. And then you would bleed to death in a matter of minutes. No one would find you in time. The person isn't there to watch over your flying, how well you fly isn't the point. They are not there as your caller or lookout. They are there to look after you if something goes wrong - that's why it doesn't matter if they can fly a model or not - its more important they know how to use a mobile phone! BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayCee Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Absolutely spot on BEB Our solo rule is for exactly the reasons that you has pointed out. Our club site is on the Surrey Downs quite remote and is open to the public so both the the points that BEB has stated are valid for us. We are very lucky we have a great club, friendly members and are privileged to be able to fly in such a picturesque setting. The second person does not have to be a member or even a flyer as far as I am aware, just someone to keep 'Lookout' a be there in case of emergencies. What I have done is purchase a couple of foam park flyer's (Wot 4 & MX2) we have a large field quite local and I get my 'Stick Time' there. No 'Strip' so the undercarriages come off and land in the long stuff where there's a will there's a way JC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Privett Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Posted by JayCee on 07/12/2010 19:53:18: The second person does not have to be a member or even a flyer as far as I am aware, just someone to keep 'Lookout' a be there in case of emergencies. Absolutely correct, JC. The "other person" is primarily there to keep a lookout for anybody you might not have noticed whilst you're flying. They don't need to be a member or a flyer. The point about them being there to assist in the case of any injury is also very valid. In the days before the club was formed, I can think of one incident where a flyer taxied his model into himself, inflictng bad prop gashes on his leg. Had he been flying alone it could have been a rather awkward situation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowerman Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I once got stuck in the mud at the entrance to our field, Luckily I was not alone. Now have 4X4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Cor Blimey ! Can't wait to start my own club when I move shortly to a farm in Yorkshire not far from Scarborough . 40 acres ,a trout stream .no sticky buns-just proper food & a pub that provides real ale 100 yards up the road . 'Er indoors had carers to "help "her dad just before he died recently there & they weren't allowed to light his fire (wood) .They came in their high heels to the farm .H&S !!!!!!--He lit his fire for about 90 years !! He was 98 by the way . Too many nanny state rules & regs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayCee Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Blimey Can I join join your new club if I move up from Surrey JC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 JayCee Of course ! By the way the RAF fly their airrcraft over the valley for low level training .We love it ,but will need to keep in touch with Air traffic control ,Now that is proper H&S !! No fees by the way ,just help to mow the runways . We have the machinery . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Smalley Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 ok but by the same argument do we have to drive cars with a second person in "just in case" are we allowed to cross the road on our own "just in case" the BMFA recomend that you do not fly alone buts thats just exactly what is should be! a recommendation, thats what it is at our club, to make it a rule is in my opinion totally over the top, i like to get there early we can fly from 9.00 am at our field so if we had a solo rule at our club, i would have to wait until about 11 or 12 before someone else turns up. i thought we were adults and able to assess the situation and dangers for ourselves its a recommendation in our club that you avoid flying alone but thats all it should ever be!! i would do everthing i could to change that rule! thankfully our club takes the stance that as long as you have passed your wings!! and you are an adult you can fly !! silly silly rule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Claridge Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 lee would you cross the road carrying a spinning carving knife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Clarkson Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 This has gone a bit off topic, ha ha. I can see both arguments here, i fly alone quite often but that doesn't mean i am unaware of the risks, i just have my mobile to hand at all times and make sure i take EVEN more care than i normally would!!!No solo flying club rules are not there for safety, they are probably there for litigation reasons unfortunately!! Anyway, back to topic. I would love to get out in the cold temperatures and do some flying, but i am soooo busy at the mo that i just haven't had time!This thread might spur me on tomorrow though!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Privett Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Posted by Lee Smalley on 08/12/2010 12:46:40:i would do everthing i could to change that rule! thankfully our club takes the stance that as long as you have passed your wings!! and you are an adult you can fly !! silly silly rule Lee, I don't know who owns the land that your club flies on. But if the landowner stated that your club could only fly there on condition that you followed certain rules would you still be doing whatever you could to overturn those rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Grigg Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Our club does prefer 2 people to be present but leave the decision up to the indivdual.Ive spent many evenings contentadly flying on my own on the way home wondering why Im alone when conditions have been excellant.Ive not needed to worry about other peoples models buzzing around and I quite enjoy the solitude.Of course at this time of year with the present weather few people do continue to fly,last sunday was an excellant day and yet there were only 4 of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Our club, as I've said, is on public land. You can fly on your own but its not encouraged. The main practical problem is kids coming up and messing around with your flightbox, tools or other models whilst you are concentrating on a model in the air! On the odd occassions when I've suspected I would be on my own I've invited my teenage son or daughter to come along - which in the summer (and for small bribe) one of them is usually happy to do! BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Hedges Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 I quite like it when it is cold, there are less dog walkers etc at the local park and I often have it all to myself! I thought about joining the local club, but there really are so many rules these days. Our local club has the 'No Flying Alone" rule and that does put me off joining it. This hobby is meant to be fun, and if I have an afternoon off work then I want to be able to go flying, even if everyone else is stuck in the office! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Smalley Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 JP yeah i would certainly try !! but if the Landowner will not budge then you have to live with it but as a committee you should at least try ! i can't see what flying alone has got to do with the landowner but hey !! in my opinion that rule will only discourage people from joining clubs BMFA membership and indeed our own club membership is down at the moment and i suspect rules like these in clubs will deter solo flyers like DH from joining a club, look if you are a competent flier, and adult and you have A,B or C cert you should be allowed to asses the risks and fly alone if you so wish, its not ideal but its a hobby and we can't insist that people have mates that also like rc flying everyone is different! i personally can only go once a week and i like to go early and come home late (to make the most of the day) if i had to abide by such a draconian rule i would only be flying 12-3 some days!! I am an adult i would like to be treated as such ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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