Andy Meade Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Ah yes but the guns aren't on straight and the wing is the wrong shape (on the spit) Edited By Andy Meade on 26/11/2019 14:43:16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Gorham_ Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Barlow Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 My Hurricane pilots boots even have the treads painted on the soles... See, any detailing can be painted on!🤣👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Gay Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Can you hear it? Edited By Martin Gay on 26/11/2019 15:48:50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Barlow Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 Posted by Alan Gorham_ on 26/11/2019 14:40:54: You both love the details.... Edited By Alan Gorham_ on 26/11/2019 14:44:32 Nice photo of Harry praying to the wind gods! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 I think you have some very naughty com'rades, Chris. Or are they just plain envious? Anyhow, great achievement with your inboard rudder rod. I would like to implement the idea in my 'Dog'... but that might have me ready for June... 2021 ! Cheers Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kettle 1 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 ......praying to the wind gods......LOL ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Barlow Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 Posted by McG 6969 on 26/11/2019 20:50:49: I think you have some very naughty com'rades, Chris. Or are they just plain envious? Anyhow, great achievement with your inboard rudder rod. I would like to implement the idea in my 'Dog'... but that might have me ready for June... 2021 ! Cheers Chris Naughty is mild Chris, more like rude! But I doubt they're envious! I have to work extremely hard just to keep up with them in quality! The rudder linkage took me around 4 hours total so shouldn't add too much time to the build. Not sure it's worth it just to have a rudder but it's fun working through these challenges. Now, can anybody edit out my Hurricane from the photo please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Twist Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Looks like an absolutely 100% perfect launch to me....😁... The wind gods were very much on our side that day! Edited By Harry Twist on 27/11/2019 00:17:04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 'Rude' it is then, Chris. Those '4 hours total' easily would mean '4 days plus' for me... IIRC, some of the gang's PSS machines have no operational rudder at all. Is it not compulsory then for PSS? I already ordered some 3mm ball links and other stuff, so one never knows. By the way, in Belgium, our 'wind gods' are barely visible... Cheers Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Gay Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 The model flies well on ailerons and elevator, so a rudder is not compulsory. However, those of us that use a rudder on our models find them useful for aerobatics and when landing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Meade Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 As above - not compulsory, but it gives an extra axis of control. Flatter turns; keeping the nose up in tight turns; better barrel rolls; better stall turns; use on the landing run when slowing up (over control of ailerons can induce tip stalls at low speeds); knife edge passes etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Thank you both for your kind replies, gents. Cheers Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Barlow Posted December 1, 2019 Author Share Posted December 1, 2019 More faffing about with the rudder idea! I decided to enlarge the hole through the elevator horn to allow the rudder torque rod to pass through complete with ball joint si I could tighten it properly outside the fuselage after applying threadlock. the tail linkages have now been connected and a light smearing of silicone grease applied. After planking the underside this will be the last time they'll be seen. Servos also installed. I used an M2 clevis for the rudder and an M3 clevis for the elevator, as explained previously. Finally able to start building the tail up and start shaping. I used 1/2" triangular stock to fillet the fin to the fuselage and light weight filler to blend it in. AFT also sanded to shape. Tailpipe is also getting closer to the final shape. Quite complicated lines and I used several photos from google to get something that worked. The 10 degree diheadral looks really cool with the fin! Now back to the last of the planking and sanding the nose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Great progress again, Chris B. Questions, please: > did you keep your GF bellcrank the same dimensions and angle (105 degrees) as the SLEC one? > is the piano wire for the half elevators inserted in brass, styrene tubes or just into the laminated balsa? Thanks & cheers Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Barlow Posted December 1, 2019 Author Share Posted December 1, 2019 Hi Chris. Yes the bellcrank/ele horn is the same dimensions and angle as on the plan which depicts the Slec part. The piano wire fits straight into the slots cut in the 2 halves of the elevators. When ready these will be glued in with epoxy. I should also add the elevator has absolutely no free play in it at all and the elevators halves are rock solid even before being glued. The BAE Hawk I picked up from the nationals had about 1/4" play up and 1/4" down making total "slop" of 1/2". That was modified to around 1/4" total "slop" and flew OK after initial trimming and adjustments. I'm not sure just how critical this is. Some sources say any free play will cause pitch instability and others say as long as the AFT is balanced it'll center itself. I figure no free play at all is the safe way to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Cooke Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 tail end looks great for a bit of careful shaping Chris, the fin and tailplane look very tidy indeed in those latest photos! I still can't believe how far your build has progressed in the 30 days of November - really impressive! Of course with a full 6 months to finish her off from this position we will be expecting surface rivet details! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Hi Chris. Thank you for taking your precious time to answer my queries. Cheers Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Barlow Posted December 1, 2019 Author Share Posted December 1, 2019 Posted by McG 6969 on 01/12/2019 17:35:37: Hi Chris. Thank you for taking your precious time to answer my queries. Cheers Chris You're welcome Chris. Happy to share. Are you going for a rudder? Nice to have if you use it all the time when flying but certainly not essential. Thanks Phil, but why would you mention rivets! Rivets, in the right place, and the right number... Panel detail, weathering detail, cockpit, trinkets... There's another 3 months on the build right there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Hello Chris, Well, yes. I'm trying to figure out if I can manage to have a go at an operational rudder. But as I don't like the external control rod - purely for an aesthetic reason - I would like to use something similar to your idea. If you don't mind, that is. Maybe I'll make a mock up version of both F15s and start from there... Thanks again & cheers Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John H. Rood Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 That balsa airplane in the pic might not be a Meteor Mk 4, but the guy on the telly is DEFINITELY our hero Mr. "A. Meade". Edited By John H. Rood on 02/12/2019 15:44:03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Meade Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 I have a feeling Chris was teasing us with that shot, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John H. Rood Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 I have a lot of time in Meteors, mostly during the Malaysian Emergency and also out of Hal Far and Aden and West Kembleford and Barton-Shagglewood, and OK yes the more I look at it, Sub-Lt. Barlow's model *might* be one. FURTHER RESEARCH REQUIRED. This all very serious business, and therefore I must assist where I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Meade Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 I've got plenty of pictures of his Meteor from our Whatsapp build group, but I'm sure this isn't the place for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John H. Rood Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Whatsapp? Sadly, I am too old now for teenage chatrooms. ((( Turning 97 has not been nearly as fun as I’d hoped.))) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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