EarlyBird Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share Posted October 22, 2020 Steady progress today working forwards along the fuselage. Yes all the way to F1, with the tray and hole for the battery, Minor adjustment required before it's all glued up. The fun continues. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted October 23, 2020 Author Share Posted October 23, 2020 The mock up of the motor mount. The motor mount will be joined to F1 somehow, could be bolts or ply ESC location as far forward as possible. Allow for a larger battery, say 3300 3S. Battery hatch, hinged the same as my Ballerina. Removable cowl, more Undercarriage, I have a steerable one doing nothing and I could just fix the steering arm. Lots to think about. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted October 27, 2020 Author Share Posted October 27, 2020 Progress! I have been building the motor mount and battery box which is fixed to F1, The front of the battery tray form the bottom of the motor box. I have used mortice and tenons, could be tabs and slots, which I last used in woodwork class over fifty years ago. Everything is a push fit and not glued at all. Apart from the focus I am pleased with it. Next on the list is the undercarriage mount. That will be tomorrow. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fun Flyer Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Well done EarlyBird, very innovative. I'm too much of a coward to stray too far from the plan!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 I do find design changes difficult but when they work out then the reward is greater. I would have said it is only balsa I can buy some more and try again, this no longer applies as we all know the buying of balsa is no longer easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 I have always told people that modifying models or solving problems is the first step to designing models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 One more step to designing models? Modifications to the undercarriage. Here are the components. The nosewheel will bolt together F1 and the added ply plate which moves the nosewheel forward 1/2". Like so, no bolts yet though. But it gives everyone the idea. I am having fun today Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 GReat! I am having fun too, getting 3 views scaled to an easy size to draw up to the size Iwant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 Autocad was a revelation in the early eighties, as was the personal computer (PC), but I felt like something was missing not the same as pencil and Rotring Pen. The good old days More fun with glue today. Well F2 and the undercarriage mount is glued and bolted. I have to cut ventilation holes and holes for the wires from the ESC. First test fit. The ESC will be under the motor mount and cable tied to the ply that extends beyond the motor mount. A few adjustments tomorrow and then it will be glue time again. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 I still use pencil and paper and Rotring pens. One reason is that on a full size dawing of a free lance design (i.e. Not scale) it is amazing how much difference can be made with a very minor change in a curve or angle that would not be visible on a small screen. IT can change a rather ugly shape into a much prettier model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted October 31, 2020 Author Share Posted October 31, 2020 I assumed you did Peter and like you I preferred seeing the full size drawing, I think our boards were A0 . It was a long time ago 1977 and my first full time employment. After a few adjustments and trial fits F1 is glued in place. Also the battery board is finished complete with all the necessary holes. This is the bottom view which includes a box for the strap to thread through. More later maybe. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share Posted November 1, 2020 Fitting the battery board continued this morning. This is the final fit before glue time. It was tight in places and small gaps in others so I sharpened my pencil and scribed around the edges. Obviously where there were gaps the pencil line was thinner or missing and on the tight sections the line was thicker. Just a simple process of sanding back where the line was thickest to give a better fit. Having convinced myself that there was nothing else to do I glued the board to F2. Waiting for glue to dry again! Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fun Flyer Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Great progress and great ideas EarlyBird. I thought I was pushing the envelope by modifying the cockpit area to make it removable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share Posted November 1, 2020 Yes FF and there is more fun to come as I am undecided about the battery hatch F1 is now glued in place under the sash clamps. Motor mount to be glued in tomorrow, maybe. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 Motor mount glued Cockpit floor glued, which is a bonus. Test fit the batteries. Two 2200 3S just fit so there is plenty of room. Now the fuselage is off the board there are more options for what to do next. I am starting to think of ways to lighten the tail surfaces. But there is the front end to finish. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 Motor shaft reversed for the folding propeller spinner and fitted along with the nose ring. Now I can make some decisions on how to form the cowl and the battery hatch. time again! Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 After a lot of thinking and trial fitting pieces of balsa to the cowl. I have decided that I need more thinking time this design business is not easy for me and yet others appear to have no problem designing and building a model in three weeks. How do you do it Peter? The cowl is put on hold for the time being and I will make progress elsewhere on the fuselage. Snakes to glue in place, top and bottom sheeting behind the wing seating. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Posted by EarlyBird on 03/11/2020 06:35:09: I have decided that I need more thinking time this design business is not easy for me and yet others appear to have no problem designing and building a model in three weeks. How do you do it Peter? Cheers Steve How do I do it? Lots of practice. The current design on my drawing board IS presenting quite a few challenges. Wing mounting, Under carriage, Strut attachement, Which version do I actually do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Collins Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 You'll have fun with that colour scheme Pete! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fun Flyer Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Trump's personal aeroplane, or should that be airplane... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fun Flyer Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Posted by EarlyBird on 03/11/2020 06:35:09: I have decided that I need more thinking time this design business is not easy for me and yet others appear to have no problem designing and building a model in three weeks. How do you do it Peter? The cowl is put on hold for the time being and I will make progress elsewhere on the fuselage. Snakes to glue in place, top and bottom sheeting behind the wing seating. Cheers Steve I decided that designing is too much work so I leave it to the experts and just follow orders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I have found that I can buy self adhesive vinyl stars on Ebay If it was Trump's personal aircraft I would have to dive it in vertically from a few thousand feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Bertram Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I have always liked the Minimax, another one on my to do list. Doubt there is long enough left to do them all. This thread is reviving my interest to carry on with the Fournier and finish it Edited By Bob Bertram on 03/11/2020 14:32:16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fun Flyer Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Posted by Bob Bertram on 03/11/2020 14:31:01: I have always liked the Minimax, another one on my to do list. Doubt there is long enough left to do them all. This thread is reviving my interest to carry on with the Fournier and finish it Edited By Bob Bertram on 03/11/2020 14:32:16 What stage are you at with the Fournier Bob? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 That's good news Bob I would love to see some photos please. Turtle deck. I did my usual method of wetting the sheet and letting it dry in place. This is how it looked. The shape is roughly there which makes it easier to hold in place while the glue dries. A few pins, tape and pegs is all that is needed. I have not glued along the spine and will do that as a separate operation. Snakes are glued in. I like them to be flush. Every time I type snakes it reminds me of a very funny incident when working in Mangrove swamps for Chevron Oil in the Delta Region of Nigeria. Oops got side tracked there and almost forgot the photo. Snakes allegedly it was a Black Mamba . Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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