EarlyBird Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 Rough carved the tip and adjusted the aileron to fit. The other tip will be fitted tomorrow. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 Fitted the other tip and continued shaping. and the other tip. I am getting there, slowly. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted October 11, 2020 Author Share Posted October 11, 2020 Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted October 11, 2020 Author Share Posted October 11, 2020 So the building board is empty! So what to do about it hmmmmm Start the fuselage? I brought the hardware from 4-Max and they included a present. Nice but I don't think we need reminding Has any one else got one and what do you do with it? It does look like a thing of purpose and must have a use. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 I have one. Could be useful for car keys if you have to retrieve a model from the outback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted October 11, 2020 Author Share Posted October 11, 2020 So I am not the only privileged customer then? Thinking about it Peter you must be their most privileged customer so therefore maybe I am their second most privileged customer. I like to think I am special! Car keys, now I was thinking they must be model related. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fun Flyer Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 so you got the wings all joined up like and started the fuz respect i never got no present from 4max gutted Apologies to all the Grammarians on the forum. (Tongue in cheek, like) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 So on with the fuselage. All dry fit at this stage glue tomorrow. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 I did not glue it because I could not get F4 and F5 to fit. I have now worked out why. As you can see they are not flat bottomed. Which is stopping me building over the plan. Peter looking at you build the rear of the fuselage does appear to be flat on the board. Puzzled Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 But I don't build the fuselage flat on the board. I lay one side down. Glue the front formers onto that side vertically. When dry I glue the other side on and then the rest is built in the air. Edited By Peter Miller on 12/10/2020 20:14:44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 Here is your build photo. Even more puzzled. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fun Flyer Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 I think its just sitting on the plan rather than being built over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Ah yes. I did that one differently I see. NOTE the fuselage is is lying on the board but not flat. You can see the extension of the former under the fuselage. I forget these things. Today I found a photo and plan advertised on Ebay. I didn't even remember the model or plan and had to go and search for it. I still don't remember building it.It was called Fantasy 2. I remember the original Fantasy as I did a fancy airbrush paint job on igt. But I have no recollection of the mark version. Edited By Peter Miller on 12/10/2020 20:43:39 Edited By Peter Miller on 12/10/2020 20:50:07 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 I am not sure If I chock the front up by 1/8" then F4 will sit on the triangular balsa and then I can build over the plan, I like building over the plan. I paid a lot of money for it so I am determined to use it. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 I forget things from yesterday and the RF-4 was nine years ago. Thanks. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 Peter, This is amazing I am speechless. Thanks for sharing as it gives me something to aspire to. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Clark 1 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 You could make some sort of jigs to allow it to be built over ther plan Earlybird. Just need some scrap bits of balsa tack glued to the fuse sides to raise it up enough to allow the curved ends of the formers to just touch the plan. You just need to make sure it is all evenly raised but very simple to do. Enjoying following your build. Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Posted by EarlyBird on 13/10/2020 07:50:44: Peter, This is amazing I am speechless. Thanks for sharing as it gives me something to aspire to. Cheers Steve Thanks Steve. I must admit that I was rather pleased with that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 Posted by Gary Clark 1 on 13/10/2020 08:13:05: You could make some sort of jigs to allow it to be built over ther plan Earlybird. Just need some scrap bits of balsa tack glued to the fuse sides to raise it up enough to allow the curved ends of the formers to just touch the plan. You just need to make sure it is all evenly raised but very simple to do. Enjoying following your build. Gary Thanks Gary I was thinking along those lines but it is good to know hat it is easy to do. I think I also need to mark the former position on the sides in order to get them in the correct location. Once I have the lines I can use pins adjacent to the lines as a location aid. The pins are necessary because of my eyes and shaky hands, the joys of getting old The upshot of it is, having spent a sleepless night thinking about it, I have to take it apart and start again. No big deal as nothing is glued, which is why I test fit. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 I use map pins a lot. They can go fully home and the bigger heads hold the sheet in place better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 Thanks Peter. This is as far as I have got Former positions measured and marked on the inside of the fuselage sides. I then test fitted and found that more adjustments are required. So I will take it apart again. Looks like this is going to be an iterative process unfortunately the number of iterations is unknown I just hope it is not hyperbolic. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 So it's been a long day. I could not get the formers to fit so after a few attempts I gave up my only thoughts being that there has to be more to life than this. Of course there is, flying for one if only I could. Feeling totally down in the dumps suddenly it came to me. Take it all apart again, groan! not again!, and fit the formers individually to each side laid on the bench. With a little bit of trimming and a couple of packing pieces it all came together quite easily. So all of the formers are ready. I have put guide pins in and started gluing at last. Only two formers as these two will fit with the fuselage flat on the board wedged in the jig(?) Well the plan looks to be working, which always makes me happy If I wasn't tea total I could have a beer or two. hm the thing is I am not tea total as I don't like tea but saying coffee and water total just doesn't sound right. A thought occurred to me while struggling with getting the formers to fit. Why did I expect it all to just fit perfectly it never does. Making it fit together is part of the fun. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 You know, there is an answer. When you get totally hacked off just say what I did many, many years ago (1955) "To Hell with this!! I will design my own!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 Peter you keep making me laugh which cheers me up not end, thank you. It's not the design it's just that I expect laser cut parts to fit perfectly and thought maybe others are of the same mind so I was making a point that could be helpful to others. 1955 I was three so I think I was a bit young to start designing and now too old Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fun Flyer Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I think everyone hits a wall at some point with every build. I found the wings to be a challange but yours seemed to just slip together. Keep going. The RF4 is well worth persevering with. 1955, that's nothing. I was at school in 1955! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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