Martin Fane Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Thanks Danny for another build master class. Itching to get started Subject still to be decided............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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McG 6969 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 ... subscribed as well. Cheers Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Fane Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share Posted October 3, 2018 Bit of a slow start but having seen the Master start I thought I would try to make some progress. Fin and Rudder framed up, left the trailing edges with a bit of thinning to complete, nice to be back in the workshop Will see if using some piano wire for the hinge pin will allow remova. / refit of the rudder "in service" Shame about the weight, getting on for twice Dannys Must try harder with wood selection. I also had a delivery of goodies from Mick Reeves - rigging wires and fittings. also some nice thin "leather" for cockpit trim and some foam for wheel tyre making - thight I would have a go at the method shown in Gwyns fury build. Edited By Martin Fane on 03/10/2018 20:48:36 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Looks great Martin always makes me chuckle your build pics look just like mine well done. Good idea on the hinge pins, using piano wire also ensures perfect allignment Are you thinking of moulding or turning your tyres? Should be entertaining to watch. Then i can copy you!CheersDanny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Fane Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share Posted October 3, 2018 Danny Glad to be keeping you entertained Ref wheels, planning to make up from ply discs / spacers and the foam will be shaped in the pillar drill. Will need wheel covers, I hope to shape in blue foam and either cover in glass cloth or vac form. Any help with vac forming would be welcome. Of course this will all be tried out in privacy and quietly forgotten if it ends in miserable failure ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 You wont fail, i plan to do my wheels in ply with either vacform or resin covers. Though the tyres might be from neoprene chord if i can get some with a high shore value CheersDanny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Fane Posted October 8, 2018 Author Share Posted October 8, 2018 Managed a little workshop time, framed up the stab and elevators. Pretty straightforward Now for some sanding. Stab leading edge ribs marked up using a ply template Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 I have just seen Andy's pics and it looks like some of the laser cut ribs will fit, especially the riblets Looking good though. I like your idea of a template to mark the shape on the ribs. Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Fane Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 Hi All Let the sanding begin !! Stabiliser sanded to profile, I've left the very edges to be rounded off just before covering. I found it useful to leave a full length of 1/4 by 1/4 strip across the leading edge to get the profile equal Also started the elevators which are a little more complicated I think The leading edges still need to be thinned / shaped The plan seems to show the elevators are left thick at the root ends but photo's of the full size suggest the these area's should be tapered to the same thickness are the other trailing edges ?? I assume the plan has this to allow the elevator joiner ?? I dont have a good photo of a full size elevator to show exactly but I think it should be shaped something like this: Anybody thought about this area yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Hi Martin looking good great tip about extending the leading edge. Wish i had thought of that! 1 house point to Martin The leading edge of the elevator balance horn is shaped like the hurricane. I can see you havent tackled it yet The area by the elevator root looks too fat on the plan, but the whole area is something of a compromise CheersDanny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Here you are guys, Sydney Camm, designer of the Fury ernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Fane Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 Progressing the tail parts. Elevators now shaped Elevator roots thinned as per full size. This means a little more tought is needed regarding joing the elevators or may mean I attempt closed loop operation. And all put together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Looks fabulous Martin, well done. On the full size the leading edge of the levators and trailing edge of the stab are tubes. I am tempted to round both off. However that is not how it is on the plan. There again the stab and elevators are much thicker than the Westburg drawings...... Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Fane Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 Hi Danny I'm thinking carbon tube as you suggested. Perhaps should have prepared the elevators with a slot before shaping For anyone interested, Gwyns Hart build on RCSCALEBUILDER is a brilliant resource for us, the first couple of pages show his method for the tail parts. cheers Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Fane Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 Hi Furites Fuselage buil in progress, not much to add to previous threads. It does help if you install the 2 tail area wedge peices the correct way and don't fit the upper in the lower location and vice versa as I did - luckily noticed the error before the adhesive had gone off - thank goodness I was using aliphatic Amazing how rigid the structure becomes with the cross bracing fitted. Held off installing F6 as there seems to be an error in its shape ? And it looks like some fetting required for F1 is required to fit the fibre glass cowl Edited By Martin Fane on 19/10/2018 10:46:08 Edited By Martin Fane on 19/10/2018 10:53:57 Edited By Martin Fane on 19/10/2018 10:54:28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose L. G. Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Hi Martin. The cowl buts on F1 not over it. Cheers. José Luis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Fane Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 Hi Luis Ref F1 - I realise the cowl butts against it but with the fuselage sheeting yet to be taken into account it looks something of a mismatch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Hi Martin, well done on your progress. My F6 fitted over the drawing perfectly, however there is an error in this area on the plan. The width of F6 shows the fus width to be 103.4mm but the plan view shows it as 93mm, then F4 90mm so it is all over the show. I packed out the fus sides to compensate for the difference. I think free hand sculpting of the bulkheads is going to be the order of the day. Not easy if the are thick ply!!! The forward bulkhead F1 is a bit odd as Dennis allows the ply to be visible on the surface, rather than fully sheeted. The same is so for some of the bulkheads. But I agree we may have to remove some wood to fit. Keep the faith we will get there Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Hi Martin, I have fitted my F6 so cannot compare eggs for eggs, but the wood that it came from fits the plan perfectly, so I do not know what has happened to yours? Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Fane Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 Hi Danny Thanks, so ref my photo, my F6 does not match my plan. Compared to your F6 part and your plan is cut part or plan in error ? ie should F6 be wider than mine is cut ? Keeping failth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Does adding dimensions to my part and plan help? Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Fane Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 Hi Danny thnaks for taking the time to check. Looks like my cut rart is incorrect. The internal dimension is OK. Its the outside dimension and shape that is incorrect. Has anyone else got this problem or am I missing something here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Mallam. Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Hi Martin, regarding your tail par pictures, what sort of hinges are you using, or is the structure just taped for the photo - difficult to see. Thanks Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Mallam. Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Sorry, above should read 'tail pictures', not sure where the par came from...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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