Patrick Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 DX5e (80 BP) 1 DX6 (150 BP) - Comes with radio protection bag. 1 DX9 (280 BP) - Comes with radio protection bag. PM me if interested. All radios are in Mint Condition. Pick up in NW8 0ER. I can ship, but buyer needs to pay for shipping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 What’s the legal position of using the US version of the DX9 in Europe, or the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Stainforth Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 The situation a couple of years ago was clear-cut. Unless the transmitter has a genuine CE sticker it is not legal in the UK. RC transmitters in the US are allowed a higher power. I was going to bring a couple of Spektrum transmitters over from the US to the UK a few years ago, but did not because I was advised it was illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 Yeah, my RC radios are US, with no CE sticker at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Chaddock Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 I can't imagine it is illegal to own a US power RC transmitter in the UK or Europe but only to use it. So I suppose buying one falls under the category of "Caveat emptor". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leccyflyer Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 45 minutes ago, Patrick said: Yeah, my RC radios are US, with no CE sticker at all You'll need to make that clear to any potential purchaser Patrick, or you might be best to hang onto them for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Lewis 3 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 You could get someone to check the RF power output, although legal to use more power in the states most manafacturers use one universal unit that is the same in all countries to avoid having differences in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Wills 2 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 From what I have read Spektrum EU radios output 100mW. The US ones output 200mW. They can be changed over at a Spektrum service centre. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Bowers Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) On 15/03/2023 at 07:03, Don Fry said: What’s the legal position of using the US version of the DX9 in Europe, or the UK. Not good. Equipment for the EU market must be CE marked and supplied with a declaration of conformity and that states specifically which EU Directives the equipment must comply with. Easy enough to look it up on the spekky page https://www.spektrumrc.com/spm-bs-compliance-page.html The EMC Directive, as an example, applies to equipment placed on the market or put in to service. The put in to service is a catchall that gets you for home made stuff or imports from outside the EU. I know we stuck two up to the EU however the UK regs mirror the language of the EMC directive. US supplied equipment is not CE marked and will not have a declaration of conformity. This isn't just a paperchase as it's likely technical and verification requirements are not in accordance with the directive as well. Edited March 16, 2023 by Graham Bowers pressed the button before finishing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatMc Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 As well as the 100mW rf limit, isn't there also a 'look before transmit' requirement for EU/UK transmitters that doesn't apply to US ones ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Bowers Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 2 hours ago, PatMc said: As well as the 100mW rf limit, isn't there also a 'look before transmit' requirement for EU/UK transmitters that doesn't apply to US ones ? Yes. LBT may have other meanings, the one I'm familiar with that's used in the FrSky world is "Listen before talk". My knowledge of the regs is in another field, however I know enough of the regulatory landscape to pick out the big hitters. A radio engineer will know much more of the detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Posted March 16, 2023 Author Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) Not sure anymore, as this comes in the manual I have with it but I do have the US model. Anyway... Edited March 16, 2023 by Patrick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 That’s for a version SPMR9900EU transmitter Patrick. Says so on the CE certificate you supplied above. Yours is a different product, has a different number. I have been having a trawl, and your American kit, should not be used on a flight line shared with EU spec transmitters. They shout louder and risk drowning the EU kit. It might cause a lot of ill will if there is an unexplained loss of control, a smashed airframe, or God forbid, injury. Better I think, they are sold into their proper market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 The ListenBeforeTalk requirement applies to Tx imported after a certain date , any imported previously are allowed to be used. So DSM2 Tx were not allowed in after that date but previously brought in can still be used. Only applies to Tx but not Rx ) The actual importer ( i.e you if you brought it into country ) is responsible for seeing it complies with UK regulations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Posted March 16, 2023 Author Share Posted March 16, 2023 6 hours ago, Don Fry said: That’s for a version SPMR9900EU transmitter Patrick. Says so on the CE certificate you supplied above. Yours is a different product, has a different number. I have been having a trawl, and your American kit, should not be used on a flight line shared with EU spec transmitters. They shout louder and risk drowning the EU kit. It might cause a lot of ill will if there is an unexplained loss of control, a smashed airframe, or God forbid, injury. Better I think, they are sold into their proper market. Good I am not flying anymore, see 😉 I did not now of the actual risks to create issues with the signals. No one should ever take a chance on that. I'll try to sell these in the US then. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Well done Patrick. A hard decision, but morally right. Sleep well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Posted March 17, 2023 Author Share Posted March 17, 2023 14 hours ago, Don Fry said: Well done Patrick. A hard decision, but morally right. Sleep well. not at all hard decision, no one would take a chance with this. safety is #1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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