Danny Fenton Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 Thanks Guys, sorry Ton nothing going on at the mo. Work has been busy and this blessed BiStormer has taken more time than I anticipated I have also been asked to do something for next months mag, which on the one hand is great but on the other hand makes doing some work to make the Apache story pt2 very difficult to squeeze in Hi Jim, I have seen pics of that one before, so has Ton and it is VERY interesting indeed..... Ton even mumbled something about designing some floats..... not sure if he was serious.... I love it Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ton van Munsteren Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Always serious about floats , flying seaplanes for years already so let me know when you need the float design. Ton Edited By Ton van Munsteren on 18/02/2014 20:50:43 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 That looks like some of our flying fields now... and they are supposed to be fields not lakes You look wet in that shot, you been in for a dip? OK Just suppose we were to do some floats how do those small float wheels operate do they retract into the floats? Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ton van Munsteren Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Seen it on TV lots of rain you guys have and more lakes than fields what a mess. The pic is of some years ago and yes lots of rain, but we had a good time and o yes had a little dip picking up my flying boat which was floating upsite down because of the strong wind. some more pickies The floats with retracts on the Apache would make a great scale column Cheers Ton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Rob Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 LOL, I remember that day and yes, it was pooring, hard wind gusts, cold to the bone but still lots of fun and many flights Was good to warm up in a small local town with a hot chocolate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ton van Munsteren Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Rob for sure good fun maybe next time Danny will bring his Apache on floats. Cheers Ton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 Hi Ton, I would love to try flying off water, it looks lots of fun, especially if you have a rescue boat! A float conversion for the Apache and the Gipsy would be interesting. I think we better see how it flies with wheels first Should have made hard points in the fus I have done a little more this evening. Just to finish off the Merlyn Locks... A short length of thin walled brass tube is cut to reach from the blocks in the wing to the next rib bay out. A brass washer is soldered to the end of the tube. The ID is a nice fit for the allen headed bolt. The wing is attached and the tube bolted up snugly. The tube is marked, removed and the belt sander used to add the chamfer to the tubing. It is then once more assembled. A hole is cut in the sheeting for the tube to exit. and the section of wing sheeted. In my case the tube is a little short, not to worry, but the idea is that the hard edge of the tube protects the wing skin from the allen key driver shaft. Once the sheeting is dry I will attach the tube to the sheeting from inside the wing. I have left the other side open so that I could do this. Glad this is out of the way, now I will do the other side and we can look at finishing sheeting the wings. Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hooper Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Now, that's neat! tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymaz Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Can we see the other end please...is it an angled captive nut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 If you go back to page 20 that explains everything I hope.... Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymaz Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Perfect thanks, may I use that in the future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 Of course its more for larger models, but is easily scaled down you could use M2 bolts and captives. That would probably have been more suitable for this size model, but its harder to see and photograph You can also change the position of the tube exit ie inboard/outboard to suit. Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 this is a wonderful build log Danny never tire of reading through will probably read the whole thing through several more times yet..hey Danny do a book ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 Thanks martian, its kind of you to say I would love to do a book one day, they say everybody has a book in them somewhere Not sure i would know where to start. Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 to be honest Danny your part way there with this blog just need to pad out with even more detail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ton van Munsteren Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Hi Danny, Great to see you back at the Apache, but please do hurry because we have a new project soon to start with. Peter Miller send me some great pics of the Grumman F3F and with all the deatils on that biplane its just the perfect plane for you. Cheers Ton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 Ton you must be joking, yes a great subject but blimey it even has a retracting tailwheel, and as for the main gear I wouldn't know where to start....... I Thought we were doing a Gipsy next? Even got the books out in anticipation, perhaps simplified compared to what we were originally thinking? Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ton van Munsteren Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 O yes the Gipsy is still standing but theres always motivation to do some more planes and must admit Iam a big fan of the Grumman planes. Have discussed the retracts with Rob and he told me that when I make a design he could machine a set of retracts for me so no problem there. Cheers Ton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 its nowt to do with me fella's, and feel free to tell me so but I for one would like to see the Grumman up next I think its absolutely gorgeous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 Is this Rob of RBC or another Rob? You are very lucky to have such friends! It would make a fabulous model. I have spent most of the evening on the Apache and have the main retracts in, well one side at least. There is a problem with the spar getting in the way. I had to notch the spar and then add a doubler, no problem really. The retract rails were a little close together and needed amm shaving off each side. Again no problem and easily done. I have shown this technique before, the blind nuts are driven into 1/4 ply, a section of lite ply is drilled with a Forstner bit to creat a hollow, this will be epoxied on top of the blind nuts to make sure they never come loose. Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 This shot is to show the mains fitted. All the joints have been filleted with epoxy and coloidal silica slurry. The area of bulkhead cut out to allow fitment will be replaced, and the entire nacelle underside sheeted. This will allow a mould to be made for the wheel doors, then the area can be opened back up. More tomorrow if I don't go flying my Chipmunk Oh it is tomorrow Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 Sorry John missed your post there. Afraif the Grumman will have to be Ton's baby, I have enough on my plate right now Managed to get the motor mounted 24.73mm off the bulkhead. Well it might have been 24. a bit..... I hope you can see the extra cutouts I have added to clear the motor and the stand-offs? The motor is very rigid indeed. Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 And very nice too. You not putting a wing light in it ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 Thank you Doesn't have wing lights But it does have a nose light AND a light on the front nose leg Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 And there's me with no access to a laser cutter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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