buffetslayer Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Having rebuilt the club trainer a couple of times I was given two wings by a member to repair. One had the outer quarter rebuilt and covered and the other a large section in the middle, roughly half the wing. Total build time for both about 8 hours. Now, he wants to pay me for my time but I have no idea what to ask for. So the question is, how much do you all think is a reasonable rate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouncebounce crunch Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I don't think it comes down to money only, maybe an old kit or accessories would be good bartering for the usually cash strapped aeromodellers? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Bennett Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 If any cash it going to change hands, I would expect it to be only for the notional cost of materials -- some balsa, some glue, and some covering -- maybe a fiver. Other than that, "payment" would be return of the favour in some way at a future date. Unless, that is, you've set yourself up in business and are advertising your repair service to all-comers, in which case you need to give estimates beforehand, and advertise an hourly rate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffetslayer Posted June 16, 2012 Author Share Posted June 16, 2012 So if you were paying cash for a repair service, what hourly rate would you personally think was reasonable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouncebounce crunch Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 most modellers repair their own stuff or get advice to repair, but if you were kind enough to repair without asking a price, or thinking of a price, then bartering for parts, kits or a service from the other guy seems the most fair? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Hi Buffetslayer Solicitors charge, many hundreds an hour, and building a wing is much more difficult than selling a house ernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Cantwell Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 building as a business will never put bread on a table, but it will pay for bits and bobs, if you charge £10 an hour, and this wing repairs taken 8 hours, lets even go down to---£3 an hour, who in their right mind will pay you for your time? £24, as the guys have said, repairs in return for favours, but sadly, the favours never seem to get returned, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Yes, a tricky one. I used to get asked to design models for people many years ago. I didn't mind and didn't charge. I stopped because people never built the models that they had asked me to design. Then I occasionally farmed out some of my designs, gave them al the materials on the condition that they built the model. Last one took 3 years. I had to get really sarcastic about that. I made that the LAST one. I suggest either asking for something in trade or specify a favour that you want right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeS Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Would it not be better to assit with the repair as this would more of a reward for both parties. Cash or parts is down to you both to work out. when I repaired a crashed model the club member had thought the model was beyond repair. What he learned was invaluable to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouncebounce crunch Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 to Peter Miller, nothing wrong with the plans of models you have designed comes down to the learning curve of the builder. to Mike S right, right, exactly right this is what modelling and engineering is all about passing on the skills and we need more of it. good oh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Bennett Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 i have built a couple of models for friends. i only ever charge for materials. we tend to sit down and work out all the material costs, then add 10%. But i do ask that i get to keep the plan. Edited By Tony Bennett on 16/06/2012 09:39:12 Edited By Tony Bennett on 16/06/2012 09:43:08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Buffet my experience (not model related) is never to deal in money where friends and aquaintances are involved - money changes the whole slant of everything. If you enjoyed doing the repairs then that, to me, would be enough and if you didn't,don't do it again. If the guy really appreciated the work then he will give you something, however small, off his own bat so that he's not in (moral) debt to you and if he doesn't then you can refuse his next request without it bothering your conscience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben B Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Personally I wouldn't accept money but would drop subtle hints about which bottle of plonk / beer / whisky I favour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Posted by bouncebouncecrunch on 16/06/2012 09:08:18: to Peter Miller, nothing wrong with the plans of models you have designed comes down to the learning curve of the builder. They were always well within the capabilities for the modeller. The ones that never got built were back in the control line days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 There are 3possible answers, say to him either...... 1. Give me what you think it's worth. 2. It took me x years to aquire this skill and then 8 hours of my time, so just give me what you earn for 8 hours work. 3. It took me 8 hours so you owe me 8 hours of your time, sometime, when I need a favour. Edited By kc on 16/06/2012 12:40:57 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bandit Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Buffetslayer, Frankly I wouldn't accept cash other than to cover the cost of the materials used, a return favour is much more reasonable. If that doesn't happen don't do anymore repairs. You may get stung once or twice but you do get to know who you can trust. Cheers, Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffetslayer Posted June 17, 2012 Author Share Posted June 17, 2012 Having deliberated over the best way to go about this and having considered all of your inputs, it has been agreed upon that I shall happily accept the internationally accepted currency by way of recompense..... Beer thankyou all once again for tour input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouncebounce crunch Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 buffetslayer you are a champion, that is the Aussie way, down here in the sunburnt country that is the (backyard) law. cheers and happy modelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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