ken anderson. Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 well it looks like the summer is once again going to be a none event....this year we have had longer than usual strong winds....and the forecasters are saying we are going to have another 10 years of unsettled weather! ...... i wonder how this is affecting the model trade....as not much flying must be having a knock on effect....to sales..... ken anderson ne..1 ........summer dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolstonFlyer Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Thinking of moving to Australia if we get another wet cold year, my wife is from there so should not be a problem. Lots of open space and plenty of warm sunny days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greybeard Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 How about learning to fly in the wind just like real pilots do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew767 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Ken...Should we all now consider buying a kite??? Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 9 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Posted by Greybeard on 28/06/2013 19:07:40: How about learning to fly in the wind just like real pilots do. Some models handle the wind better than others. If all you have are small light weight models you are sometimes just out of luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Gee Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Posted by Greybeard on 28/06/2013 19:07:40: How about learning to fly in the wind just like real pilots do. Greybeard Any pilot, real or otherwise can fly in the wind, a dignified landing on the other hand is an alltogether different kettle of flying fish. I've seen plenty of "real" pilots having some somewhat sudden arrivals in windy conditions. As stated above a lot depends on what you fly and whether you're happy to replace it if the worst happens. discresion can sometimes be the greater part of valour. Having said that, living in Scotland, if I didn't have a model I could fly in the wind I wouln't get much flying done. Alwyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename-John Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 They cant even forecast the weekend weather properly most of the time never mind ten years ! I wouldnt worry about it Edited By Codename-John on 28/06/2013 21:04:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanR Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 As a newbie, can I ask, specifically, which models are good in windy weather. No flying wings, please. Many thanks for any advice. Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbycat Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 My model yacht has been pretty good this year in the wind. I also find it doesn't affect my cars much either . Seriously I find my Wot 4 comfortable to fly whatever mother nature decides to send our way. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sharp Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Hangar 9 Ultra Stick will handle most conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 9 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Posted by Tom Sharp on 28/06/2013 22:01:16: Hangar 9 Ultra Stick will handle most conditions. Especially if you have the 4 servo wing setup. I used to have great fun hovering mine in the wind with the crow breaks deployed. Edited By Phil 9 on 28/06/2013 22:20:23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Travis Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Posted by Codename-John on 28/06/2013 21:03:05: They cant even forecast the weekend weather properly most of the time never mind ten years ! I wouldnt worry about it Edited By Codename-John on 28/06/2013 21:04:00 So true the met office website is not reliable at all your better looking out of the window or flipping a coin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I'm astonished how well a pushycat handles a windy and gusty day. It has the speed to cope with wind, and yet doesn't seem to get thrown around by gusts. Remarkably stable. I'll fly mine way beyond the wind conditions where I decide not to risk my Wot4. I have an ARTF wot4 and I think it's lighter than a built up one. Flying it in the wind is not an issue. Getting it down can be interesting.... Also... Perhaps another way of answering the question; "what models are good in windy weather" is... Models you are not too worried about! When my foamy wot 4 was very battered.. I'd check it up in almost any condition! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanR Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Thanks Andy, Tom, Phil and Graham. I was a bit wary of raising this hoary old question yet again, but I'm stuck. I'll explain briefly - From reading through the forum, and seeing one fly on a seriously windy/gusty day, I bought a Wot 4 Mk 3 kit and decided to convert it to electric. However, I underestimated the extent of my back problem and am finding it very difficult to spend any time at my workbench. Therefore, I'm looking for an ARF electric hack-type model which will handle a strong gusty wind and give me some flying time whilst I take forever building my Wot 4. Unfortunately, Hangar 9's Ultra Stick appears to be i.c. only so I'm afraid its a no-go. So, any further recommendations, preferably based around Purple Power's PPPO 5055-580 motor ( equivelant to Eflite Power 46 or 52 ) though not essential, would be very gratefully received. Graham - is a pushycat the same as Hobbyking's Sniper? Thanks,again, everyone Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 9 Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 I still do not enjoy flying in windy conditions as much even though I have become more competent at it. I think it is because you need to react to the model more rather you telling the model what to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greybeard Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 The problems with flying when it’s windy as I see it are: The model bouncing around in air turbulence: The difference between the into wind ground speed and that when the model is going down wind: Landing the wee beast. Turbulence tends to be a factor of your flying site so if you can’t find a smoother site you have to settle for what you have and try not to over control your model in an effort to get a smooth flight, live with the bouncing. Provided your model can make reasonable headway into the wind then you have to get used to the variations in the ground speed, which can be a challenge but is satisfying to master. Landing approaches have to be much steeper in a strong wind with good throttle control to keep the air speed up and fly the model onto – rather than into – the ground. Models fitted with trike undercarriages with a slightly lower nose leg are much easier to handle on the ground in a wind than tail draggers which may want to go flying again as the tail settles. I think expecting one model to handle all weather conditions is optimistic but most 60 inch span or larger models fitted with a top end of the range engine will do so. Increased model weight only results in a faster flying model with a narrower speed range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken anderson. Posted June 29, 2013 Author Share Posted June 29, 2013 we fly off the cliff's/hill's etc........sometimes in winds of 60 mph.......back to the original question/post....... i imagine with the not very nice weather that a lot of local field/club flyer's aren't getting as much flying as they would wish and.....hence the knock on effect to the trade...... ken anderson ne..1 knock on effect dept. Edited By ken anderson. on 29/06/2013 09:06:46 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanR Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Oops! Sorry to semi hi-jack your thread, ken. I wonder if any traders notice a corelation between periods of bad weather and sales. For instance, in addition to potentially reduced overall sales, do they notice an increase in kit sales when punters are resigned to less flying and more building. But to carry on in a similar vein, if there were, say, a small group of go-to models for when the winds were high, which included all types, ie small foamies, big foamies, warbirds, powered gliders, ic, electric etc etc so that all tastes were catered for, wouldn't we all go out and buy the model from that group that we fancied, in order to keep flying, even when it was windy. I'm sure the trade would be better off if we all were able to buy a model that kept us in the air more often, rather than giving up and sitting at home. Otherwise, if the 10 year forecast is correct, then I think the future is going to be a bit bleak for both trade and customers alike. So to go back to my question ( sorry ken ) - any recommendations, please? Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete B Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 How about starting a new thread for recommendations of suitable models for windy conditions, Ian? - there's plenty of discussion in that subject and it's dragged this one, which is about the effect on trading, rather off-topic...... Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 9 Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 As a buyer I am not really worried about the effect on the trade. There is always much talk about supporting the LMS but in many areas there is already no local shop. Many people like me are pretty much reliant on the internet to buy kit. That maybe a short sighted viewpoint but with less good flying days available due to weather I do wonder will I get value from buying new models that may just end up sitting in the shed most of the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanR Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Phil, I agree entirely, hence my reason for asking for specific recommendations. I have 3 foamies which I bought on impulse and have only ever flown 1 of them. I daren't risk the other 2 and will probably have to wait a fairly long time for all the variable circumstances to favourably coincide for me to try them out. At least if I could remove wind as an unfavourable variable I might be able to get some flying in. Pete, point taken. I'll open a thread. Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bran Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Well, I have only been in a model shop about three times this year, where the norm would have been three times a month at minimum. Built a few Helis but not needed a new plane for two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GONZO Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Looks like we had better get used to this type of weather and worse. From what I saw on the TV recently and gathered from a few web sites it looks like the Suns magnetic activity and subsequent sun spot activity may be going into what is known as a 'Grand minima'. A much longer cycle of Sun activity than the more common 11 year sun spot cycle. If I understand this correctly, low sun spot activity means lower energy output from the Sun thus lower temps here and thus bad weather. Infact I'm sure I read somewhere that the Earths average temp had not increased since 1998 (so much for global warming). The TV prog. stated that the last time this happened was back in the 17th century when northen Europe was put into what is called the 'Mini Ice Age'. Food for thought! Link to just one of the sites to start your search **LINK** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken anderson. Posted June 29, 2013 Author Share Posted June 29, 2013 i think that the knock on effect of the dodgy weather is effecting all aspects of our hobby.....shows suffering from poor attendance's...or even cancelled......and the LMS not turning over the good's due to the restricted flying ...... ken anderson ne..1 .......... knock on effect...dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Jones Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Summer What Summer . Well i have four days off as i have too take my kidz in to hospital on different days of the week . So i decided rather than having a day here and a day there i would take the week off , Only i am on call Friday for a week , so this would be my only chance for awhile . So i went out today , Well its cloudy and windy but steady wind so thats good . So i did some test flying and Oh boy , if the weather is good for Greenacres next year i will have something a bit special for you to See , Lets just say todays flying went very Well indeed . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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