Geoff Bradley Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I'm a little confused as to what is expected at the flying field. Having read the BFMA handbook there is little information as to the safe oral 'calls,. 'Dead Stick' is an obvious call but I am curious as to what other 'calls' are used at different clubs. Also do clubs list such 'calls' in their rules and regs ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concorde Speedbird Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I am not in a club and this is my field etiquette... Have fun If needing more information, refer to point 1. CS PS. Sorry if this does not provide any useful information but this is just my view! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Bennett Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 we have "ok to take off" when yes you go onto the runway "taking off" "ok to land" "landing" "ok to recover" thats when you go onto the runway to collect your plane "dead stick" of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolstonFlyer Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 As far as 'calls' from pilots, in no particular order."On the patch - (to collect a model etc from the 'runway' area)Taking off,Landing,Dead stick,Low pass,Oh help I am going to crash!.. or other words not to be typed on the forum.We also get some full size light aircraft over flying our field so we call out to make sure that pilots are aware and get models below/ out of the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Bradley Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 Excellent etiquette CS! Tony - when you call 'ok to take off, who says yes or no ? I've not come across 'low pass' before ! Are these calls in your club rules gentlemen ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Bennett Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 the other people on the flight line that are flying. same for the landing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I suppose its a question, not a statement! "Ok to take off?" - other flyers reply "yeap" and off you go! We have: "Lining up" - statement that you are about to taxi out onto the strip. "Taking Off" - when you start your take off run. "Landing" usually called approximately downwind on a landing circuit. "On the srip" - if you have to retrieve "Srip Clear" - if you've been on the strip to retreive but are no longer on it! "Dead Stick" - obvious If its busy we call low passes. Its not really a case of "rules" - I think its just common sense and simple courtesy where you have several pilots flying together sharing the same airspace and strip. BEB Edited By Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator on 07/08/2013 23:22:53 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sharp Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Dead on the nail BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sharp Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 One call you dont hear to often nowadays is "Interference". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Similar stuff... OK to taxi out? [go out (discouraged)] [hand launch] Taking off Any manouevre interfering with the normal circuit - e.g. looping in front of us, low pass, training manouvres such as reverse circuit, figure of 8... Dead stick Landing, OK to retrieve? ...and from anyone in earshot, people/horses/cyclists in the lane, low flying aircraft or other potential hazard. Also an occasional "crossing the runway" (when expeditions are underway to retrieve a model from the woods/adjoining fields) or trespassing ramblers are in the next field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will -0 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Posted by Tom Sharp on 08/08/2013 00:01:11: One call you dont hear to often nowadays is "Interference". No, it's been replaced by "brown out" or "lock out" calls are all about making good communication so that noone gets suprised by anything that you're doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hargreaves - Moderator Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Yep BEBs list is pretty much how we do things at my club....as he says they're not so much rules as courtesy & common sense....good communication is vital if you are all looking up at your model & its busy..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR 71 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I think the Cyprus club i fly with have rules, just so that they can break them, i was on a maiden flight with a Great planes Revolver that was proving to be a handfull and when i finaly got it down on the final aproach to land a big 4 wheel drive crossed the strip right in front of me with no regard to anything around him, and he was a regular flyer I was in the pits tending to my plane and got hit in the back with another one, engine still running , when i told them what i thought they were it nearly came to fisty cuffs. They are a nice bunch of guys but dont understand or just ignor rules, and this is after a German got hit in the face with a helli neading £15000 worth of medical treatment, A lot of the Brits wont fly on a weekend for safty reasons But the sun shines so not all bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
001 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Make a rule, don't put it in the club handbook. Criticise a new member over the internet, publicly for breaking the 'important rule'. Goodbye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Budd Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 SR71....yep, I'll second that, but thats the cyprus way. Last time I discussed the lack of sticking to sensible safety rules I was told that this is a dangerouse sport and we sometimes have to accept that things can go wrong. I fly and behave in the pits as I did in the UK and am always very aware of what is up in the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly P Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 ?? Whats that Chris? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy48 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Posted by Tom Sharp on 08/08/2013 00:01:11: One call you dont hear to often nowadays is "Interference". That's true. Its probably because the committee don't like you talking about them like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Bradley Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 Thank you gentlemen ...very helpful. I find it surprising that BFMA don't sugest calls for all eventualities ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Marsh Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 What not to do, although some do: Take off and land in the pits. Do low passes over people's heads; Prop hang infront of other pilots' noses and do that for 10 mins; Run in engines in the pits, but with the prop facing the crowd line; Fly helis infront of the pilots area and keep it there, also do very low figure of 8's over the runway, so no-one can land or take off until you're finished; Start turbines with the effluex facing the pits/crowd line; Taking the model and yourself into the strip and take-off standing behind the model. Once the model is airbourne, hang around the middle of the strip until you want walk to the pilots box when you want to tell others how well you can fly. On landing, mimic the model's actions but swaying the ducking and finally falling flat onto the ground, watching the last mm of height lost as the wheels touch down and looking like you're in control. Edited By Paul Marsh on 08/08/2013 21:51:58 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sharp Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Is that your phone or mine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Green Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I'm uncomfortable with the slightly pompous 'pilots voice' some people adopt when calling, sounds like RT procedures..... play it safe but sometimes it does sound a bit OTT! We often have an equal mix of gliders & powered models so even 'dead stick' seems a bit 'so what?' I'd much rather it was left to common sense than (heaven forbid) a BMFA ruling. I did once hear someone call "low pass..." (ok I thought.) "left to right..." (yep, ok.) "inverted..." (erm... ok.) "below three feet..." (WHAT?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cotsford Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 now that is just showing off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Marsh Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 That's probably me... I did say, "Preparing for landing; Flaps one; undercarriage down and three greens; Going onto finals, flaps 2; over threshold. Taxiing. Parking, commencing engine shutdown: Ignition, Fuel battery!" Yesterday I called 'Scale' inverted low pass with my GWS Foam C-130 Hercules. Bit sad, oh, well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ade Eades (Eadsie) Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I Think (not a member yet of any club as new to this hobby) that the rules are there for a very good reason, especially for a medium to large club with lots going-on and que's to 'Have a go' I respect others and 'Care' about their 'well-being' weather i know them or not. as for the post about the chap in cyprus with motor running whilst walking about in the pits...??!! flippin ek'!!! This is a dangerous hobby, make no mistake, and if the rules 'Cut Down' the likley hood of (god forbid) ever having an accident, Then it gets my vote.... Last night i was on my own in a field maidening myself using a T-45 EDF plane, these were my 'Field Calls' OH criky i must be mad...here goes!!! Yesssssssssssssssssssssss OMG!!! jeezzzzz WOW i need a beer now..... Fly Safe Team.... Kind regards Ade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Clarkson Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Posted by ADRIAN EADES on 30/08/2013 07:53:47: I Think (not a member yet of any club as new to this hobby) that the rules are there for a very good reason, especially for a medium to large club with lots going-on and que's to 'Have a go' I respect others and 'Care' about their 'well-being' weather i know them or not. as for the post about the chap in cyprus with motor running whilst walking about in the pits...??!! flippin ek'!!! This is a dangerous hobby, make no mistake, and if the rules 'Cut Down' the likley hood of (god forbid) ever having an accident, Then it gets my vote.... Last night i was on my own in a field maidening myself using a T-45 EDF plane, these were my 'Field Calls' OH criky i must be mad...here goes!!! Yesssssssssssssssssssssss OMG!!! jeezzzzz WOW i need a beer now..... Fly Safe Team.... Kind regards Ade. Iv'e seen your other thread regarding this and that made me laugh, but this is even better. So good to see someone enjoying themselves as much as you are. Happy and safe flying. Edited By Ross Clarkson on 30/08/2013 17:07:51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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