David Ashby - Moderator Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 .......it might be quicker to list the rules/safety considerations it doesn't break. Aside from looking supremely dangerous for the young lady concerned who really should have listened to better advice. Edited By David Ashby - RCME on 10/04/2014 10:06:17 Edited By David Ashby - RCME on 10/04/2014 10:11:34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn K Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Stupid I agree... but impressive if it's genuine.. Martyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levanter Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 David. Yes it looks more dangerous than running in front of bulls and being attached by fireworks. Good old Spain. On a serious note I noticed in the credits Centro RC Levante. For the record this has nothing to do with my pseudonym here on the forum. Levanter3 It is a radio control shop in Alicante and I live in Mallorca. These are not Spanish people however. Further down the credits I see that lots of magazines are involved as media partners. In all forms of sport, technology, whatever. If people can do it they will do it. Having said that I am absolutely not condoning it. At the end they indicated the risks were all thoroughly assessed and managed. I couldn't disagree more. Too high, over concrete, directly under heavy machines, exposed rotors, built up area ................... as you say how long is one list and how short is the other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I'm surprised they could get the weight of those boots off the ground! BEB PS er,...flying over a built up area, dropping a live animal from a model? How about cruelity to a dumb animal? Could you get them on "not having all parts of the model securely fixed"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearair Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 No idea, not sure what the regulations are in Spain. Im guessing none as it explains quite clearly that it was a stunt carried out by professional stuntmen and presumably women. Also it seems to have been supported, by quite a few magazines Im guessing but like RCM&E they would not associate themselves with an illegal act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearair Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 At 3.07 it states that it was officially authorized and safety measures were taken even if not apparent. So NONE is the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Apart from her handbag the models part were all securely fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jenkins Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Why am I not entirely surprised that she kept hold of her handbag for this......stunt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john melia 1 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 If it was carried out by stunt persons as seems , then its just like stunts in a movie , dangerous but controlled , so I'd say it breaks no rules . And it is quite impressive , the stunt I mean , yeah ok , I meant the girl really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levanter Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 This would be breaking rules in Spain I am sure. There is a Federation but not anything like as active as the BMFA. It looked like the stunt was on private ground so it would be difficult to police. I think it would raise an alert however given the amazing lifting power assuming, as Martyn says, it was not a hoax. I have visited flying clubs here and I have found sensible safety awareness. It would be great however if the BMFA could have an overseas or European membership category. I am sure there would be no legal barriers anymore and I am fairly confident that us ex-pats would understand if the subscription was a bit higher as clearly admin and perhaps insurance costs would be more. Sorry. going off topic so maybe I should start another thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearair Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Posted by Levanter3 on 10/04/2014 10:35:38: David. Yes it looks more dangerous than running in front of bulls and being attached by fireworks. Good old Spain. On a serious note I noticed in the credits Centro RC Levante. For the record this has nothing to do with my pseudonym here on the forum. Levanter3 It is a radio control shop in Alicante and I live in Mallorca. These are not Spanish people however. Further down the credits I see that lots of magazines are involved as media partners. In all forms of sport, technology, whatever. If people can do it they will do it. Having said that I am absolutely not condoning it. At the end they indicated the risks were all thoroughly assessed and managed. I couldn't disagree more. Too high, over concrete, directly under heavy machines, exposed rotors, built up area ................... as you say how long is one list and how short is the other? Are you a professionally trained stuntmen then? You seem to think you know better than the ones on this stunt, just wondering why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levanter Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 The Titanic was fully authorised. Evel Kneivel ended up having more metal in him than me. I only just started my list and thank goodness we don't have to be professionally trained to have an opinion Bearair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearair Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Posted by Levanter3 on 10/04/2014 11:32:23: The Titanic was fully authorised. Evel Kneivel ended up having more metal in him than me. I only just started my list and thank goodness we don't have to be professionally trained to have an opinion Bearair. Agreed opinion's are free to everyone just trying to establish if you had experience of this sort of stunt and possibly a more valued opinion. I see this as a professional stunt carried out and filmed such that it looks more dangerous and possibly impressive than it is. If it promotes the hobby in a way that might appeal to the younger generation then i think great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cotsford Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 biggest risk appeared to be landing on a palm tree in a miniskirt, bet that made her eyes water1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon B Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 The initial question David posed was not how dangerous it was, but how many rules it broke. It seems the answer, as has been said before, is none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearair Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Posted by Bob Cotsford on 10/04/2014 11:45:54: biggest risk appeared to be landing on a palm tree in a miniskirt, bet that made her eyes water1 Having never landed on a palm tree in a mini skirt I can only imagine!!!. Got to go now off to Spain with some soothing lotion.................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Chaps - lighten up eh! This was posted a bit tongue in cheek. I for one will have little interest in a bad tempered, pedantic, pointless tennis match of petty point scoring, (Phew! That's easy for you to say!) BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolm woodcock 1 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Dangerous, those boots are so last decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leccyflyer Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Had she fallen onto the concrete from 12-15' in the air , or had one of the helicopters suffered an equipment failure, then wearing those boots, the likelihood is that they would have been trying to put together the tiny pieces of shattered ankles for quite some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon B Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I wasn't commenting on your clearly tongue in cheek comment, BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete B Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Stuntman/woman or not, if it goes pear-shaped no-one's immune from the laws of gravity or all the other maiming possibilities Talking of laws, Darwin was probably looking down on this with great interest.... Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leccyflyer Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Darwin was looking up at this, surely.......at least if his detractors are to be believed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 @ Lecckyflyer - LOL! BEB PS I agree with Pete - if a stuntman did a thing like this all the camera angles would be carefully chosen to obscure the fact that there was padded area for him to land on should he fall. The skill of being a stunt man is I think to do things that look dangerous in a safe way. I'm not convinced that applies here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy48 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Is someone really suggesting that two helicopters of that size have enough lifting power to lift a person? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Quite a small person - albeit in very big boots! BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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