Chris Bott - Moderator Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 The FrSky website is showing some details of two new transmitters. The pictures are computer generated and there are no photos yet, so I'd speculate that release dates are a while off. Some quite exciting features and specs though. Click the pics for details. X9E Horus X12D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Skilbeck Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 While I was looking at the pictures in the post an advert for the Jeti Duplex system came up on the right, the resemblance is striking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Wow! I'm gob-smacked! It looks gorgous but more importantly the spec is amazing! Built in GPS and WiFi, Bluetooth enabled, voice recognition - so now we really can tell "Texas Trudie" to shut up! And this "9 axis sensor" that "lets you do anything you can imagine" - what's a 9 axis sensor when its at home? I thought that unless you were a theoretical physicist (and most of them are barking mad in my experience!) the universe only had 6 dof's! I also notice they are talking about an "easy programming" interface and OpenTx. These guys are seriously on the ball. If they can get this out at the sort of ultra-competative price point they have sold at before - they are going to do some serious damage to the interests of other manufacturers. Be scared gentlemen - be very scared! BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Posted by Frank Skilbeck on 30/09/2014 23:13:13: While I was looking at the pictures in the post an advert for the Jeti Duplex system came up on the right, the resemblance is striking. Indeed Frank - I thought the same. The poor man's Jeti - but with twice the capability! BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy.I Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Posted by Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator on 30/09/2014 23:14:57: And this "9 axis sensor" that "lets you do anything you can imagine" - what's a 9 axis sensor when its at home? I thought that unless you were a theoretical physicist (and most of them are barking mad in my experience!) the universe only had 6 dof's! BEB From what I vaguely remember complete intertial control is calculated using a three-axis gyro, a three-axis accelerometer and a three-axis magnetometer (compass), giving nine degrees of freedom. Further degrees of freedom can be defined by barometric pressure (incremental altitude) and GPS (absolute position). Edited By Andy.I on 01/10/2014 07:08:33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich too Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Posted by Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator on 30/09/2014 23:14:57: These guys are seriously on the ball. If they can get this out at the sort of ultra-competative price point they have sold at before - they are going to do some serious damage to the interests of other manufacturers. Be scared gentlemen - be very scared! BEB I'm shaking in my boots! Good looking tx's at last (ok I admit Futuba's are quite ugly) - but what is that horrible long thing on the side for? It looks ridiculous. Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Meade Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 It's a wrist support. If you search on the the RCG FRsky thread, you can see some pre-production models and renders of both that were realeased about 12 months ago. Horus was scheduled to be shown at the (Dallas? or Texas..I checked - it's Chicago) October Hobby Fair. The large screen on the Horus is meant to not only be used for programming etc. but also as an FPV monitor. Edited By Andy Meade on 01/10/2014 08:46:56 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John F Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 TBH the X9E is the ugliest thing I've seen for a while. It looks like it was built in the 1970's. I feel quite unwell looking at it. The Horus looks much better and it will probably do extremely well against other systems (who am I kidding, it'll wipe the floor with them!) but I'll reserve judgement till I see a proper photo! Edited By John F on 01/10/2014 08:51:23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Meade Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Apparently the X9E shown above is a "tray based Taranis". There was another in development that was shown a while back - X18D I think it was called? Had two large screens - one top and one bottom, same size as Horus above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Meade Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Ah, no I found it - these were the first mentions of the X12D and X16D back in 2012, just early CAD renders then. Looks like the Horus has ended up fairly close to initial drafts, which is always nice to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bott - Moderator Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 The rumour is (and has been for a while) that these will be unveiled at the Chicago Model Fair, which is tomorrow to Sunday. Let's hope we get to see some photos of fully finished and working transmitters. If all they have is some computer generated 3D model, then we may have a long wait for the real thing. Spec on the Horus looks amazing, and I read that the screen may also be of use for FPV. All subject to change: Aluminum CNC base gimbals with high resolution magnetic angle sensors High resolution IPS screen (800*480), touch operation supported Bluetooth 4.0 Voice broadcast and recognition Inbuilt 9-axis sensor, do everything you can imagine Inbuilt GPS and WiFi FrSky OS installed, easy for beginners and expansible for advanced users Support open source firmware, such as openTX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John F Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I wonder, if the Horus does have voice recognition, what you could set "Aaaaargh, No!" to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iqon Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Gorgeous is a word i would NOT use to describe these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Meade Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 You only wiggle it's sticks - you don't have to hang it above the mantelpiece as art Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bott - Moderator Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 Apologies first, this is borrowed from another forum but it tickled me.. If parts were combined from two of FrSky's transmitters, would we have a Taranishorus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bott - Moderator Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 Back to serious mode again. Posted by Aloft Hobbies on RCG, Re Horus:- "Just hop on the next flight to Chicago, and you can hold one in your hands this weekend. Same goes for the X9E and some other cool new FrSky gear." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Meade Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Good to hear, I was holding off on the Taranis due to the imminent release of the Horus. Thankfully already using FRsky rx's and sensors with a plugin on my FF9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken anderson. Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 very nice-looks like the end of the line for the big names-that are accompanied by the Big price's......well done to the new boys---I know people in our club who have paid a lot of money for TX's - now they are going to be paper weight's by the time these boys take over....... ken Anderson ne...1 .consumer dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Posted by Andy.I on 01/10/2014 07:04:41: Posted by Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator on 30/09/2014 23:14:57: And this "9 axis sensor" that "lets you do anything you can imagine" - what's a 9 axis sensor when its at home? I thought that unless you were a theoretical physicist (and most of them are barking mad in my experience!) the universe only had 6 dof's! BEB From what I vaguely remember complete intertial control is calculated using a three-axis gyro, a three-axis accelerometer and a three-axis magnetometer (compass), giving nine degrees of freedom. Further degrees of freedom can be defined by barometric pressure (incremental altitude) and GPS (absolute position). Edited By Andy.I on 01/10/2014 07:08:33 Mmmmm, well strictly speaking no - not 9 dof's. 9 variables on 3 axes and 6 dof's. The 9 there are needed partly because you can't generate displacement from acceleration without creating unknown constants of integration - so you need the extra information provided by an over defined system. So although 9 variables - only 6 unknown dof's, defined on 3 axes. Unless we're going into hyper space! "Its a transmitter Jim, but not as we know it" But that aside - why would you want an inertial navigation system inside a Tx? BEB Edited By Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator on 01/10/2014 14:55:50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Meade Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 In this instance, I am sure it is the same as the designation used on a flight controller : X +ve, X-ve, rotation about X Y +ve, Y-ve, rotation about Y Z +ve, Z-ve, rotation about Z = 9 DOF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatMc Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 The Horus antena/handle arrangement looks very Blue Peter. The antena in particular appears vulnerable to being easily damaged. Is there any reason that the antena can't be completely routed inside the handle if the handle was made as part of the main Tx body's plastic moulding ? IIRC Phil Green did just that using a hack module in a Futaba Tx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Molineux Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 My Taranis is absolutely fantastic. Only downside being the slightly old fashioned casing. Now that looks to be sorted, who wouldn't by FrSky? Totally rock solid signal. Cheap RX. incredible flexibility. Why would you look elsewhere? Dave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Fairgrieve Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Only one word to describe them. FUGLY. I love my Taranis and can not see the appeal of these at all. Look like tray flyers are catered for though. Kev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Meade Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 The only reason I've looked elsewhere Dave is systems like Jeti, that have two dedicated battery inputs into the Rx. I prefer this method than adding another fail-point of an external add-on unit to give me battery redundancy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bott - Moderator Posted October 3, 2014 Author Share Posted October 3, 2014 So, they've been unveiled in Chicago. It's disappointing though that these are only early prototypes. I have a feeling that we have a long wait before we actually see one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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