Gary Manuel Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Don't throw your jigs away when you've done. I might want to borrow them if this works well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 He owes you £20 I should get a bit of balsa as well John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Manuel Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 That's true. He might have a supply in his pockets - they are deep enough Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iqon Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 End of day 1 on jig...going o`k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Wragg Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Posted by lightning 759 on 31/01/2015 13:32:11: hi looked at title thought great , had a look at thread not a proper lightning NO AVONS shame andy I thought simular..... as in expecting to see the one and only original Dave Hardacker Lighning Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iqon Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 Thanks Guys, it saves me putting anymore on here.........I shan't waste my time..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cotsford Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Now don't be like that! I for one am interested is seeing how you get on using the jig to build your fus. I think the 'f3a' in the title rather than 'scale', 'EE', 'pattern' or whatever should have been a hint as to what you are building Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Wragg Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Sense of humour required........ When i saw lightning F3a I expected to see the original model being built and not a 2m model (maybe a slight edit to the title to avoid confusion),,,, no doubt if the boot was on the other foot? you would probably react in the same manner. Nevertheless following this thread with intrest so carry on regardless Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Manuel Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Posted by iqon on 08/02/2015 10:03:46: End of day 1 on jig...going o`k Iqon, I'm not seeing the photo in this post for some reason. Well I was expecting to see a 2m F3A plane when I read the title. Not sure why others are having problems. I might build one myself if Iqon manages to keep his under 5Kg and it flies well. There are not many self build F3A models around and this one in certainly different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightning 759 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Posted by Bob Cotsford on 08/02/2015 11:05:31: Now don't be like that! I for one am interested is seeing how you get on using the jig to build your fus. I think the 'f3a' in the title rather than 'scale', 'EE', 'pattern' or whatever should have been a hint as to what you are building Saw the lightning F3 bit but buy then the mind had already got to mach 2 & was already deciding on the colour scheme Andy (aka village idiot Edited By lightning 759 on 08/02/2015 20:02:58 Edited By lightning 759 on 08/02/2015 20:03:41 Edited By lightning 759 on 08/02/2015 20:04:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Don't be so touchy if you get no replies that do's give you the hump get some posts on you have some interest. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Wragg Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Posted by Gary Manuel on 08/02/2015 18:54:15: Posted by iqon on 08/02/2015 10:03:46: End of day 1 on jig...going o`k Iqon, I'm not seeing the photo in this post for some reason. Well I was expecting to see a 2m F3A plane when I read the title. Not sure why others are having problems. I might build one myself if Iqon manages to keep his under 5Kg and it flies well. There are not many self build F3A models around and this one in certainly different. confusion is the key element here Gary, in F3a circles there is only 1 lightning and that is the model which Dave Hardaker designed and flew to great success in the 70s. I agree that there is not enough 2m F3a kits available & that's why I'm following with intrest even though Inicially I was expecting a Dave Hardaker lightning build...... but nevertheless pleasantly suprised even though there may be a copyright infringement Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Manuel Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Ah right. I'd never heard of either F3A Lightning until I saw this thread. I've just looked the Dave Hardaker one up and found a 1978 magazine cover that shows a photo of his model. Obviously a very successful model in its day, but not the same generation as the Jeff Carder one that Iqon is building. I spent some time last year looking for an F3A self build before I gave up and bought a 2m Vanquish F3A at a very good price but not assembled it yet. If I had been aware of the Jeff Carder plans then, I'm pretty sure I would have had a go myself. I'm intrigued about about the way the jigs are used for fuselage and wing building and am following with interest. Good point about the copyright infringement. Maybe Jeff Carder has been given permission to use it? I'll leave them to argue about that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn K Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Looks like the album that iqon was using has been deleted Martyn Edited By Martyn K on 09/02/2015 09:30:19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Meade Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Yup, album has been taken down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Manuel Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 That's a shame - I was looking forward to this one. If anyone is interested, I found this Build Log while I was searching for F3A Lightning, so all is not lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn K Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 That's the original build blog. I have got a copy of the plans from Jeff. I don't think he would object if I shared them here Martyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iqon Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 this one is also useful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Yep another F3A site lost John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iqon Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 Anybody thinking of making one of these , the wood list on page 16 is wrong, it states 1/16th wing sheeting and should be 1/32nd, or at least thats the way i read it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn K Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 good grief - that is thin for a model this size.. M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iqon Posted April 25, 2015 Author Share Posted April 25, 2015 This aircraft is now complete and maiden done - First I will start with missing pictures first job is to make a jig, in my case i used mdf - you will need a long table, this is big..... then make a start on cutting formers, I used a borrowed Titan scroll saw, thanks JS once cut, some are covered with carbon fibre cloth, in my case i used 30 min epoxy, dont know if there is better stuff to use this is what I had available and seamed to work ok for me... before you cut the cloth, put tape on where you are going to cut as this will avoid fraying, I cut mine with scalpel While the CF took time to do I continued to cut out the rest of the parts requires Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iqon Posted April 25, 2015 Author Share Posted April 25, 2015 Then start to fit formers to jig, there is a list of the sizes required for the uprights on the German site as on page 1. I think I made mine slightly taller as you need clearance later when it comes to time to remove from the jig. You will need a good supply of clamps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iqon Posted April 25, 2015 Author Share Posted April 25, 2015 Thats the undercarriage plate locked in place, personally i would have liked it thicker, so later in the build i added a second layer of ply underneath, you also need it thicker if you are going to use T nuts for the bolts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jenkins Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Following! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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