Robert Putley 1 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Has anybody had experience with the new Spektrum tx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcaddict Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 robert - just remember that the new spektrums are DSMX only, DSM2 Rxs will not work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Lots of good info here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Geoff Jackson Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Just bought one for playing with a mini multi rotor on DSMX. So far im impressed with its easy use. Ordered a lipo for it but being told March before in stock! Before anyone shouts the drone is for indoors with the grandkids! Im a fixed wing oily hand man rest of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Putley 1 Posted January 7, 2017 Author Share Posted January 7, 2017 Thanks for that Old git. Was aware, thanks again. I was concerned that their was not a second coaxial ariel inside the tranny, having had problems with the an early DX6 with the single ariel. However, I notice that the ariel can be swung up and down, hopefully this eliminating the problem of having the ariel pointing directly at the model Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 robert - just remember that the new spektrums are DSMX only, DSM2 Rxs will not work" Are you sure or am I reading an incorrect spec? http://www.spektrumrc.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdId=SPM6650 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 DSM2 transmitters have been banned from sale since the ETSI regulations changed in Jan 2015. They still sell it elsewhere in the world however, hence the content on that link. The UK version of that page clearly states the Rx that comes with it is EU spec and DSMX only. Edited By MattyB on 07/01/2017 15:24:28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice Harvey Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I notice that Mike Freeman in his review of the DX6e gives the modulation as DSMX/DSM2. Model World, to their credit, posted a notification in the March issue stating that all Spektrum transmitters sold since 2015, do NOT support DSM2. Well done them for pointing it out in print. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Freeman Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 If I may please put the case for the defence... Spektrum are a global player and the DX6e is available in DSMX and DSM2 modulation so, technically, my Datafile table is correct. My understanding is the DSMX only label applies to European sets only, DSM2 is still available elsewhere in the world. In hindsight, I can see a reference to this in my review would have been helpful so my apologies for that, During my research I came across the document at the bottom of this post which states that DSMX and DSM2 Tx's and Rx's are both ways compatible (I have enlarged the relevant part just in case the text pixalates too much). From the posts above this appears to be not the case and I know that David has spoken to Spektrum about this and they have confirmed this document is wrong. I imagine David will be clarifying this point in the next issue of RCM&E. With regards to Maurice's comment on the statement in Model World, I don't read this magazine myself but, looking at the Traplet website, I see they ran a review of the DX6e in their Feb issue. It could be their reviewer made the same assumptions as me and listed the modulation as DSMX/DSM2 and their comments in the March issue are a similar correction. Modulation aside the OP asked if anyone had any experience of the DX6e. Well, I think it is a very capable set with lots of features for a reasonable price! More detail can be found in my review in the March issue of RCM&E. Thanks, Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis Watkins Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 There is an horizontal antenna in the rear handle of the Tx according to the diagram in the manual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis Watkins Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 There are 2 Antenna on the DX6 There is an horizontal antenna in the rear handle of the Tx according to the diagram in the manual Edited By Denis Watkins on 27/02/2017 08:54:29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Freeman Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 The DX6e transmitter has a single diversity antenna - there is no antenna in the handle. The single vertical antenna is adjustable so it can be set to an angle to suit how the Tx is held. I think the diagram Denis is referring to is on page 45 of the English portion of the DX6e's manual which looks to be a generic clause on safe distances from the aerials for all Spektrum Txs. Denis is correct, the DX6 has dual diversity but the 6e is definitely single. For what it's worth the single diversity antenna on the DX6e has never caused me any concerns. The antenna fades count I see on the telemetry are always within the normal range of 50-100 per flight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis Watkins Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Apologies but this diagram shows radiation from 2 areas, Bottom right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis Watkins Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Right Mike, I see what you mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Green Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Posted by Mike Freeman on 27/02/2017 14:23:15: The DX6e transmitter has a single diversity antenna For what it's worth the single diversity antenna on the DX6e has never caused me any concerns. 'single diversity' is a contradiction in terms Its either a single antenna (which it isnt if its a G3 EU model, is it a G2?) or two diverse antennas (which it is if its a G3 EU model) Edited By Phil Green on 27/02/2017 16:19:10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Freeman Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Point taken Phil, thanks. However, the DX6e is neither G2 or G3. It is a first generation tranny which only has a single (but adjustable) antenna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 As DSM2 Tx can no longer be imported into the EU but are available in the rest of the world presumably this could be changed when we leave the EU. So the question is - is it to our advantage as aeromodellers to not have imports of DSM2 Tx or should we be asking the BMFA to lobby the government to allow DSM2 to be imported again in due course after Brexit? Or should we lobby to keep restrictions on importing DSM2 even when we leave EU? Is this one of the useful bits of EU legislation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Green Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Actually the DSM2 protocol is not illegal under the new ETSI regs, however it is not permitted at the full 20dBm that DSMX and other fully compliant protocols generally employ. It would be perfectly ok for Spektrum to import sets to the EU with both DSM2 and DSMX protocol selections in the menus as long as DSM2 was limited to 10dBm which would be perfectly usable for indoor or small park models. DSMX of course can be the full 20dBm as its fully compliant. Cheers Phil Edited By Phil Green on 27/02/2017 19:29:46 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Green Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Posted by kc on 27/02/2017 17:49:53: As DSM2 Tx can no longer be imported into the EU but are available in the rest of the world presumably this could be changed when we leave the EU. Edit: ignore this, I read kc out of context, sorry Highly unlikely. It is far more probable we would remain a 'Member State' of EASA, as are other 'Geographically-European but non-EU' countries like Norway and Switzerland. Edited By Phil Green on 01/03/2017 09:24:36 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Green Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Posted by Mike Freeman on 27/02/2017 17:21:21: Point taken Phil, thanks. However, the DX6e is neither G2 or G3. It is a first generation tranny which only has a single (but adjustable) antenna. Is the review of an obsolete model then Mike? That seems strange. So yours wont do 11ms DSMX? Cheers Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Freeman Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Hi Phil, No, the DX6e isn't obsolete. It is a brand new Tx which came out at the end of last year. It is available in DSMX only in Europe and DSMX/DSM2 elsewhere in the world, as discussed above. It is an entry level Tx which, some say, will replace the DX6i but I think it is so close in spec to the DX6 that a lot of newcomers will hop straight onto a DX8 when they get bitten by the bug, potentially making the DX6 obsolete! Mike Edited By Mike Freeman on 01/03/2017 07:42:14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis Watkins Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Hi Mike With your in depth knowledge of these products, could you put together a scale of advice to pre inform us where you feel choices should be made E.g, where there are marginal differences or big differences in certain models Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Freeman Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Hi Denis, This is a useful table for comparisons.. https://www.spektrumrc.com/Content/Media/PDF/SPM_Transmitter_Comparison.pdf HTH, Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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