Ray Farrimond Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Try these http://www.fighteraces.co.uk/product/wing-tubes/ Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Etheridge 1 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Thanks Ray ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwain Dibley. Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Try these, doesn't state ID or OD tho, but if you only need the ally tube it's a lot cheaper. D.D. Edited By Dwain Dibley. on 07/06/2017 12:41:33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Taylor Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 It's probably a bit late now,but Seagull also offer this model as a kit and if you look it up on their website I'm sure you can at least view the build manual. May help with the original method and order of assembly. Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Etheridge 1 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Thanks DD that is a much cheaper price for a longer bit of tube. The nearest Wickes is at Coney Hall West Wickham which is not too far away and fairly close to Avicraft where hopefully I can obtain other bits. I will check out the Seagull website KT as there might be some useful tips. However I have been making up the replacement bulkheads with much stronger ply and of my own design and intend to add additional strengthning. I may add a little weight but I don't think the performance of the plane will be affected as the owner uses a new OS 46 up front with plenty of power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff S Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 The Paper Aviation Eezzy Peezzy (or however it's spelt!) uses wood dowel (about16mm IIRC) into what I think is phenolic tube and the instructions tell you to wrap the dowel with paper masking tape for a close fit. When I built (actually I finished a part-built model) I used 2" tape in about 6 places and it works perfectly on an 84" ws model. I'm told the wing is the same as the better known Regal Eagle biplane but I don't know if the wing tubes use the same technique. Admittedly it's not super aerobatic but I do loop and roll it even though it's not very pretty. So if you can't find tubing that's the right internal fit then perhaps dowel (or smaller diameter aluminium) wrapped in masking tape isn't such an outrageous solution as you might think. Geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwain Dibley. Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Hey Geoff, One EezyPeezy, that I rebuilt. This was before the refurb I might add. Check out the wing joiner.. D.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Etheridge 1 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 I managed to obtain the Wickes 16 mm DIA aluminium tube at about £6.00 and there was sufficient length for two wing tubes. Thanks DD. I have fitted both wings but need to strengthen the fuselage wing fixing areas as they suffered a number of fractures to the lightweight ply. I still need to glue the fuselage sides and add more balsa sheet where it was damaged. This will also be necessary on the underside of the fuselage. It was interesting to watch the YouTube video review of the unmade Challenger kit. Edited By Mike Etheridge 1 on 07/06/2017 23:16:10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Coming together nicely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwain Dibley. Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Yep looking great. Glad I could help. D.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Etheridge 1 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 More progress made on the Seagull Challenger repair. I am now in the process of replacing the damaged balsa on the fuselage side and underneath the same. Al reinforcing with balsa strip has been carried out and checks for symmetry. It does not look too bad however I am told that often a repaired plane is never quite the same when flown. Edited By Mike Etheridge 1 on 10/06/2017 19:58:45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 You will probably find that there is very little difference. The main causes of difference are any missalignment or a CG shift and I am sure that you will check both of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Marsh Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 I've repaired wrecked ARTF's in the past - in fact if someone breaks one, they give it to me if they were going to bin it. I have this model, years ago, still have it which was broken. 20 years later it's still flying... Edited By Paul Marsh on 11/06/2017 08:15:48 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Etheridge 1 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Great result Paul! The Challenger is now complete and ready for hand over. It was a lot of work but I learnt some issues regarding modern ready made planes and found out today from Mick Charles models that the covering used on all Seagull planes is Profilm which I have used for the first time. As you can see in the pictures I did manage to retain the star and stripe but I cannot imagine how long they will stay adhered? Now where was I on my old Junior 60? I will let you know how the Challenger performs. Edited By Mike Etheridge 1 on 13/06/2017 15:35:13 Edited By Mike Etheridge 1 on 13/06/2017 15:36:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Well it looks like new. Well done!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Etheridge 1 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Seagull Challenger handed over to owner today. The plane is now ready for it's post crash maiden. Edited By Mike Etheridge 1 on 18/06/2017 22:14:34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwain Dibley. Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Looks the Dogs Mike, Very Well Done. D.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bran Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 NICE!!!!!! Upright engine, decent spread U/C, perfect hack.or it would be if the surfaces were bigger............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Posted by Dave Bran on 19/06/2017 07:01:31: NICE!!!!!! Upright engine, decent spread U/C, perfect hack.or it would be if the surfaces were bigger............ I don't think so. IT is very close to my own designs with plenty ofwing area. In factit looked sogood that while I was trying to find inspiration I even tried for a kit review of the model. I didn't get one and did find inspiration for my own design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cotsford Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Posted by Dave Bran on 19/06/2017 07:01:31: NICE!!!!!! Upright engine, decent spread U/C, perfect hack.or it would be if the surfaces were bigger............ Hooligan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Etheridge 1 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 This is the Seagull Challenger prior to the crash. I have been paid in full for the repair and my wife given a bottle of fine wine for her patience with me spending a number of hours on the repair in our garage. She thought she deserved a crate ! https://youtu.be/vkd7eoPaZI0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Etheridge 1 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Following the crash and repair, the Seagull Challenger has had it's maiden flight. https://youtu.be/y0ckFsCAIMY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 It doesn't come up with that address Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Farrimond Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 It did for me. Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 The Seagull Callenger first flight that came up when I put the address inwas put on Youube a month ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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