john stones 1 - Moderator Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Anyone else weary of the new phrases coming into use ? Self isolate, stop at home. Hermione off Harry Potter went to an event, self partnered ? on her own. Who comes up with this rubbish ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jenkins Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 It doesn't stop there John. Singular verb with plural - there is lots of blokes who... Split infinitives - To boldly go .... - in American English it seems that every infinitive has to be split and now it's happening here. There is less people who... = There are fewer people who ... Me and my friend went .... if you don't have a friend it would read .... Me went .... What's wrong with My friend and I went .... Oh dear, that's got be going! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIMON CRAGG Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 ........and the latest maddening sayings............start every sentence with "So", and add a few "likes" drives me batty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Oven ready plan? Fantastic .......... , name your subject. We live in an age where our leaders and influencers, believe that is the limit of our intellect. Mind, I can't say with certainty, they are wrong. No attempt at a reasoned argument. Barren field. Depressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J D 8 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Today we need to be "more better" not just better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrman Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Couldn't agree more Simon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 ... disculpe, pero no entiendo. Soy de Bruselas... Cheers Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 You are probably happier that way Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason-I Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 "I didn't do nothing" is the one that gets me most. I usually answer it with "so you did something then", only to be confronted with blank stares. That and the following phrases from over the pond: "A whole bunch" - Seemingly a description for anything greater than 1. Other adjectives are available people! "Lets go ahead and" - A completely unnecessary phrase. Lets go ahead and look at the next annoying phrase... "Your all set". So, that's it like. Fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Posted by SIMON CRAGG on 12/03/2020 20:27:49: ........and the latest maddening sayings............start every sentence with "So", and add a few "likes" drives me batty. Yes, That is so irritating!! But then years ago I was a technician in a school. I had a stand up argument with the head of English. I said that the kids couldn't spell and had no idea of grammar or punctuation. He said it didn't matter so long as they could express themselves. I pointed out that with their lack of skills they could not express them selves clearly. All this was accompanied by 3rd year pupils laying round the area making strange noises into tape recorders. Don't ask me how that helped their language skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted March 12, 2020 Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 So, yep that one grinds, and let me be clear on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 You should try being part of an american owned large company. Managers aren't managers, they are people leaders... We all have to socialise our ideas (!) amongst other oxymorons. I could go on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted March 12, 2020 Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 Social media put down O.K Boomer, what I'm a Submarine ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason-I Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Posted by Nigel R on 12/03/2020 21:19:28: You should try being part of an american owned large company. Managers aren't managers, they are people leaders... We all have to socialise our ideas (!) amongst other oxymorons. I could go on. So long as you give it 110% you'll be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lima Hotel Foxtrot Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Moan, moan, moan. The English language is a constantly evolving, dynamic tool of communication and expression. Have none of you read Chaucer? Or medieval English? Shakespeare? In form, composition, vocabulary and meaning there are many differences between what was penned and what is now accepted as the norm. Also, gentlemen, given the focus of discussion in this thread, I suggest some proof-reading before you submit your own poor examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Posted by Jason-I on 12/03/2020 21:23:01: Posted by Nigel R on 12/03/2020 21:19:28: You should try being part of an american owned large company. Managers aren't managers, they are people leaders... We all have to socialise our ideas (!) amongst other oxymorons. I could go on. So long as you give it 110% you'll be good. In fairness I see your point. The term was, usually , idiot ,in my day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason-I Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Posted by Lima Hotel Foxtrot on 12/03/2020 21:31:50: Moan, moan, moan. The English language is a constantly evolving, dynamic tool of communication and expression. Have none of you read Chaucer? Or medieval English? Shakespeare? In form, composition, vocabulary and meaning there are many differences between what was penned and what is now accepted as the norm. Also, gentlemen, given the focus of discussion in this thread, I suggest some proof-reading before you submit your own poor examples. Sooo, lets go ahead and look at this. Ain't not nothin wrong with language evolving, but it's so like not evolving like. It seems to be devolving, like less expressive, with one word or phrase seemingly fitting all. It's like a whole bunch of words have gone missin like. You get me? Edited By Jason-I on 12/03/2020 21:44:44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted March 12, 2020 Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 Not read Chaucer, nor Shakespeare, read Izaac Waltons The Compleat Angler, tough going. So what you read ? Stephen Ericksons my favourite just now. **LINK** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin b Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Coo. This one's stirring up a hornets nest. Innit ? With regards to the thread title, I would like to ask of which of the several hundred variations spread across the planet are we referring to ? If it is the "Queens English" are we referring her majesty Queen Elizabeth II, or Rue Paul ? Edited By kevin b on 12/03/2020 21:57:01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted March 12, 2020 Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 Mum n Dad would be proud of me, I made it to Grammar school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Jenkins Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Thank goodness the weather will be good enough to fly tomorrow. This cabin fever is getting to me - and a lot of others by the look of it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Richardson Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Me thinks you be wright Peter Jenkins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni Reynaud Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Full agreement on the "Proof-read before posting" comment. So many paragraph breaks where they are not needed, commas sprinkled in where they are not needed, your instead of you're, there instead of their - makes things difficult to read if they don't flow nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Ferguson 2 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Try this - "Strictly English : the correct way to write and why it matters" by Simon Heffer, pub Random House, 2010, 322 pages, ISBN: 9781847946300. Like it is really good, like..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Posted by Jason-I on 12/03/2020 21:23:01: Posted by Nigel R on 12/03/2020 21:19:28: You should try being part of an american owned large company. Managers aren't managers, they are people leaders... We all have to socialise our ideas (!) amongst other oxymorons. I could go on. So long as you give it 110% you'll be good. These days I find 200% is a better target to aim at, 110% is a bit last century. As I work an agile process, we are always sprinting. I note few people ever seem to point out the impossibility of "always sprinting". Apparently, the more realistic "cruising at a sustainable pace" is not a sufficiently motivating expression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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