Mike Blandford Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 Posted by Eric Robson on 26/11/2020 00:22:05: Hi Graham, I should have twisted Richards arm for a Tempest wing for my Seafury as they are very similar. It would have saved a lot of work and UHU POR. So they should be! The Fury started out as the "Tempest light fighter", and used the outer wing panels of the Tempest. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Robson Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 Spent the evening covering the fuselage. I formed the exhaust outlet and cooling gills from a Forster's can . The wing fillet is from card mounted on thin ply. Mike the wing outer panels are built from the Brian Taylor Tempest plan as my first attempt was not right .I have the Tempest part kit from Sarik which was going to be my next build but the Warbirds Mustang kit arrived so I will probably do that first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Robson Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 Almost ready to cover the wing, I must be allergic to building Hawker aircraft I have had a heavy cold which is just easing and today I looked on my Fury biplane build for a reference for Coin Leighfield and I had time off building that due to a heavy cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Robson Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 Starting to get back to it now the cold has finally gone, I've been trying to cover the pink foam cowl ,the best way would be to glass it I tried laminating film but it did not like the curve so its back to brown paper. as I have no materials for glassing and have never done it before. I need some oleo legs for the under carriage but can't locate any, 4Max advertise them but have no stock, Hobbyking only have them on Global but I am not keen on ordering them as I have been caught out by Hobby king's addons before. any suggestions would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 F4c competitor, Brian Wood has been making oleos for a few people, and he does lovely work Not sure if you are after retracts units or just oleos? Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Robson Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 Just the oleo's Danny, I will probably make some like I did for the Fury. I have 5 kits in the queue but with covid and the weather there should be plenty of building time. Cheers Eric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Robson Posted December 6, 2020 Author Share Posted December 6, 2020 Managed to get some grey and white primer on today. o I used felt tip pens for the roundel . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Robson Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 Ready for testing when the weather improves, the U/C legs are temporary they are for my next build a P51 Mustang from Richard's Warbirds Replicas , I also need to get a 4" spinner. Still some numbers to go on and other details. As it is now it is 57" span and weighs just under 5lb with 4s battery it has a 42/48 650kv Prop Drive motor , the prop is 12 x 8 . I have the same set up in my Flair SE 5 and get 12 min. flights but I only fly the SE 5 at half throttle as it is too fast over that. Merry Christmas too all and looking forward to a better 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Robson Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 Due to lack of good flying weather I started marking some panels on and weathering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyGnome Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Looking good Eric! Hopefully get some air under the wings soon..... GG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Robson Posted December 15, 2020 Author Share Posted December 15, 2020 Thanks GG, after all the rain we have had up here the field will be messy and today I have to wait in for a delivery so it may be a while longer before I can see if is as good as the last one. Eric r. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Robson Posted December 17, 2020 Author Share Posted December 17, 2020 Had it's maiden today very windy but it flew as good as the old one only needed a lot of down trim but that was probably with the high wind, I done a wheels up landing as the strip is soggy at the moment and it did not taxi too well with the ground conditions . I had to put the up trim back in to get it off the ground for the second flight as it was wanting to nose over. It was too cold to have any more flights. Very happy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Congrats on the maiden, Eric. If I'm allowed a tip regarding the glassing without the 'mess' that you mentioned earlier. You can use some light glass cloth (25gr/m² but replacing the epoxy resin by Water Based Varnish (the Ronseal Diamond hard type). The advantage resides in the ease of cleaning and the lower weight. Of course, it is not as strong as epoxy but makes even Depron very ding-proof. Cheers & stay careful Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 super work Eric and well done on the maiden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Robson Posted December 17, 2020 Author Share Posted December 17, 2020 Thanks Chris and Martian, Chris I will try the glass cloth and varnish method in the future I have a Brian Taylor Tempest in the queue and that will be Laser powered so no brown paper on that one.. Martian I hope you are well you have been quiet lately, how is the Tigercat? Cheers Eric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ovenden Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Well done Eric. Very happy to hear that the tests flights were successful. Time to start the P51 now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Well done Eric, looks great Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Well done Eric, looks great Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Robson Posted December 17, 2020 Author Share Posted December 17, 2020 Thanks Danny and David , The Fosters's cans came in useful again for the exhaust outlets after cutting them to shape I put them on the hob printed side down and heated them till the ali. turned brown. In the house they look very dark but the strong sunlight lightens them up .Need to get some tubes for the exhaust stubs. Cheers Eric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cotsford Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Brilliant idea with the heat treatment Eric, one worth remembering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Robson Posted December 18, 2020 Author Share Posted December 18, 2020 Hi Bob, I found out when I was annealing it for the Hawker Fury biplane, there seems to be a lacquer on the inside which darkens the hotter it gets . I thought it would be useful some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Green2 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 On 20/11/2020 at 07:10, Eric Robson said: Good morning David, I use UHU POR for most internal gluing , the fin is quite large so I made a balsa frame (from the scrap box) and used aliphatic resin to glue the 1/16" sheet depron on as it had to be sanded , the problem with UHU is when sanding, it tends to catch the glue and pull it out as it remains flexible for a long time. Using wood glues on foam is ok if it can get the air to dry it, I once glued the undercarriage blocks into a foam wing with PVA and months later when I went to fly it the blocks came out on landing and the glue was still fluid . It had only dried around the edge. I have made a few aeroplanes from depron and they all flew well but the depron I have left is the last I could get as it is out of production. I have 4 conventional kits to build so that will keep me going for a while the only reason I made this one was to replace the small one which I had a lot of good flying with. Still following your Condor build. Cheers Eric. Good morning Eric, can I ask where you got the 1/16 foam from for the tail skins or did you have to machine it yourself or hwc it? Also you mention covering with brown paper and ironing it down, is this done with a cold or warm iron, or just a figure of speech? Thanks James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Robson Posted September 14, 2022 Author Share Posted September 14, 2022 Good morning James, I bought the 1/16" depron from Slec at a show just before covid struck, it was the last they had as manufacture had ceased, I wanted 3mm but that had all gone. When covering with brown paper on foam I use a temp. controlled iron set to 120 deg. on foam surfaces and 140 on balsa. The best brown paper to use I have found is the masking paper from Toolstation, 300mm x 54m for under £4. Paint the mat side with thinned PVA and iron on, don't use strong B.P. as it generally is ribbed and these show when dry. Eric. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Green2 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Thank you Eric, this is what I needed to know. I am looking to build a mk.XVI Spitfire to a similar scale as your Sea Fury and hope to use your techniques in the construction. I am amazed how you have used depron to produce such a fine model. I bought some 3mm white from B&q and was wondering if this would be suitable for the tail skin or is this too thick at this scale? Thanks for the advice re brown paper, I will pick up a roll from Toolstation. 👍 Regards James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Green2 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 P.s. is this the masking paper? https://www.toolstation.com/brown-masking-paper/p46672 Regards James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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