Bill Reed Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just wondering if any one would be able to help/advise on the following? I do not want to link OR name the guy but he has designed and built a "project" on YT and given all the details and files etc for others to copy/build. I would imagine guys who know electronics will follow the above with no issue BUT I know nothing of electronics, I can solder to good level. Being YT its not the best place to ask questions or discuss and for me I can not follow the guys directions,spoken or written. I can find all the parts listed to make the module. His prototype which although not neat will suit my needs ,uses ordinary PCB sheet,with holes predrilled. He does not show how to wire this. His latest version uses a PCB that you send files away and its made for you,you just fit the components. I would rather go with the "untidy" prototype . There are no components mounted to the made to order PCB that I am aware of. I do not really want to post a link to the channel and look like I am knocking the guys work. it would be great if someone would be willing to take a PM of the details and see if using the shop bought PCB to make the prototype was possible. I think the module and build is pretty simple for the electronics guys. Hope that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hall 9 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 When you say it's an ordinary PCB sheet, do you mean that it is a sheet with copper strips running the length of the board and holes at all co-ordinates (used to called a Veroboard)? The intent is to cut the strip to suit the circuit.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis Watkins Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Circuit diagrams transfer to Veroboard quite readily Bill If you show the diagram, I can draw up a Veroboard plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyinFlynn Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 "His latest version uses a PCB that you send files away and its made for you,you just fit the components." If those are the gerber files for a PCB this guy has designed you can get 5 PCB's made for you by www.JLCPCB.com for around $5 (size and complexity dependent but a good size double sided is ok). plus postage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Reed Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 Posted by FlyinFlynn on 28/12/2020 17:05:12: "His latest version uses a PCB that you send files away and its made for you,you just fit the components." If those are the gerber files for a PCB this guy has designed you can get 5 PCB's made for you by www.JLCPCB.com for around $5 (size and complexity dependent but a good size double sided is ok). plus postage The trouble with the above is , overseas shipping and duties but more so the delays with covid etc. Plus for me I did not understand the "Gerber" file system and could not even open them on my PC. For me the "proto" type will be good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Reed Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 Dennis if OK,can I PM you a picture or link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis Watkins Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Posted by Bill Reed on 28/12/2020 17:14:52: Dennis if OK,can I PM you a picture or link? Yes of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Green Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Bill there are probably many who are willing to help but without knowing what the project is, who designed it, or anything about it you make it difficult. Take it from me the guy will not be offended by a construction query. Cheers Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyinFlynn Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Posted by Bill Reed on 28/12/2020 17:13:57: Posted by FlyinFlynn on 28/12/2020 17:05:12: "His latest version uses a PCB that you send files away and its made for you,you just fit the components." If those are the gerber files for a PCB this guy has designed you can get 5 PCB's made for you by www.JLCPCB.com for around $5 (size and complexity dependent but a good size double sided is ok). plus postage The trouble with the above is , overseas shipping and duties but more so the delays with covid etc. Plus for me I did not understand the "Gerber" file system and could not even open them on my PC. For me the "proto" type will be good enough. No extra costs. No duty, just carriage, which is dependant on how quick you want the PCB. - you *can* get it in 4 business days if you want to pay for it. If you download a gerber file viewer your computer will be able to view the file. gerbv.exe google it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engine Doctor Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 It Looks like a simple board . You can etch your own using Ferric Chloride solution . Just mask the tracks you want with a coat of paint . Humbrol should do . Then dissolve the rest of the copper away and drill the holes . We made many boards when the RCM&E used to have electronic projects years ago. Ferric Chloride is readily available on ebay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Reed Posted December 29, 2020 Author Share Posted December 29, 2020 Posted by FlyinFlynn on 29/12/2020 09:22:35: Posted by Bill Reed on 28/12/2020 17:13:57: Posted by FlyinFlynn on 28/12/2020 17:05:12: "His latest version uses a PCB that you send files away and its made for you,you just fit the components." If those are the gerber files for a PCB this guy has designed you can get 5 PCB's made for you by www.JLCPCB.com for around $5 (size and complexity dependent but a good size double sided is ok). plus postage The trouble with the above is , overseas shipping and duties but more so the delays with covid etc. Plus for me I did not understand the "Gerber" file system and could not even open them on my PC. For me the "proto" type will be good enough. No extra costs. No duty, just carriage, which is dependant on how quick you want the PCB. - you *can* get it in 4 business days if you want to pay for it. If you download a gerber file viewer your computer will be able to view the file. gerbv.exe google it. Thanks for the help. But its not just a case of dragging some files across. It asks for many other options that I have no idea about.Not much info on ordering and for someone with no experience of pcb`s and components its bewildering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff S Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 It would help if you provided some information on the project then we could make some valid comments. An electronic project covers a huge range from a simple PCB with half a dozen (or fewer) components to a complete computer or HiFi amplifier, say. Veroboard is easy to use for small jobs. Is it still available? For breadboards when I was gainfully employed (25 years ago!) we used board with 0.1" spacing holes into which we pushed pins and wired it up - easy to modify. For integrated circuit lash-ups we usually used wire wrapped sockets but wire wrap guns are expensive. We need to know what the project it to help sensibly. Geoff Edited By Geoff S on 29/12/2020 14:55:14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Green Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 This reluctance to tell us anything about the project is intriguing Bill - maybe the RCG crystal ball will be more revealing... Same question on RCG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Stephenson Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Bill, I would add, if you can't give any more details no one can really help you. At the very least it is necessary to know the board size and the number of layers and if the material thickness is critical. Most of the other options are not critical like the colours so you can default them. A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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