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At long last I finally got to maiden flight my new Boomerang today at the field and I wasn't disappointed.   It flew as a steady as a rock and came in for a nice smooth landing.  The Saito fourstroke just added to the pleasure.   I'm glad I bought the Boomerang,  it handled the light winds very nicely.  I would recommend this trainer to anyone looking for a nice relaxing flight.  

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On 13/01/2022 at 13:36, aidan mcatamney said:

I was thinking of fitting a receiver switch with a charging jack this time round Denis, so I wouldn't have to take off the wing or unscrew the hatch to check the battery.  Did you just use an ordinary switch?

While convenient, i would always charge batterys outside of the model, should the worse happen, you would lose your battery pack, not your whole model! I've seen it happen a few times!!

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13 minutes ago, tizdaz said:

While convenient, i would always charge batterys outside of the model, should the worse happen, you would lose your battery pack, not your whole model! I've seen it happen a few times!!

 

Are you referring to LiPos tizdaz? I've had one explode when it was outside the model and it set fire to two other models which were hanging on the wall, one of which took me fourteen months to build. I've never had a problems with Nicads or NiMhs exploding.

 

I'd fit a receiver switch with a charging jack without a care Aidan provided you are not powering your receiver with a LiPo.

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2 minutes ago, David Davis 2 said:

 

Are you referring to LiPos tizdaz? I've had one explode when it was outside the model and it set fire to two other models which were hanging on the wall, one of which took me fourteen months to build. I've never had a problems with Nicads or NiMhs exploding.

 

I'd fit a receiver switch with a charging jack without a care Aidan provided you are not powering your receiver with a LiPo.

hiya buddy, yeh mainly lipos, but for the sake of a few mins removing the battery, i always charge the battery outside of model, it also allows you to fully visually inspect the battery for any damage etc 😉

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2 hours ago, David Davis 2 said:

 

Are you referring to LiPos tizdaz? I've had one explode when it was outside the model and it set fire to two other models which were hanging on the wall, one of which took me fourteen months to build. I've never had a problems with Nicads or NiMhs exploding.

 

I'd fit a receiver switch with a charging jack without a care Aidan provided you are not powering your receiver with a LiPo.

Hi David, I always use Nimh battery's to power my receiver and I also use good quality receiver switches with charging Jack's and never had a problem.  I'm flying 36 years.  

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2 hours ago, tizdaz said:

hiya buddy, yeh mainly lipos, but for the sake of a few mins removing the battery, i always charge the battery outside of model, it also allows you to fully visually inspect the battery for any damage etc 😉

I don't use lipos to power my receiver, I always use Nimh battery's and I'm flying 36 years without any problems in this department 

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3 hours ago, jrman said:

I have stopped using switches with built in charging jacks as the volt drop across the switch can be excessive. Not sure why this is but I have measured over 1volt  drop even with expensive branded switches. 

 

I've never had a problem with a receiver switch that has a charging jack and I'm flying rc aircraft 36 years.  

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I think the Saito 62 and Boomerang is the perfect partnership , plenty of power but not screaming 2 stroke power and a relaxed fly . The only time a Boomerang does something out of the ordinary is if  youve caused it . I would also say that having had Saito and 4S brushless versions the Saito was a better flier than the electric one , maybe a weight thing .

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1 hour ago, Brian Dorricott 1 said:

I think the Saito 62 and Boomerang is the perfect partnership , plenty of power but not screaming 2 stroke power and a relaxed fly . The only time a Boomerang does something out of the ordinary is if  youve caused it . I would also say that having had Saito and 4S brushless versions the Saito was a better flier than the electric one , maybe a weight thing .

I totally agree

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On 07/12/2021 at 17:29, Zflyer said:

Probably no help at all but converted mine to electric. 4 Max PO 5055 595 on a 4s. Ruddy marvellous

 

Hi,

This is an old post but if you are still reading - did this set up work well got an old boomerang which owes me nothing and was thinking of this motor in an elec/4s conversion - can you remember prop size and esc size by any chance.

J

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Anyone any experience of the boomerang EP version ?

 

What I would like to know is do you have to remove the wing to replace the battery or is the front screen a hatch. Again preferably with reference to the specific EP version.

 

Cheers

 

 

Toto

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Thanks Ron,

 

I kept coming up with the other version for the IC / EP convertible and just wasn't sure if they were the exact same design. Much appreciated.

 

Inotethat the speed controller and the battery are virtually on top of one another ..... is this wise or would the preference not be to have them spaced out a bit ? No particular reason for asking other than curiosity.

 

Toto

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I now have an OS 46AX in the club's Boomerang. I picked the engine up for a song at a car boot sale, minus the silencer but I found one amongst my souvenirs. I didn't want to risk my beloved Enya 50 in the clumsy hands of incompetent beginners.

 

I recovered my Boomerang's fuselage and tailplane last year as it was starting to look very scruffy.

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, toto said:

Thanks Ron,

 

I kept coming up with the other version for the IC / EP convertible and just wasn't sure if they were the exact same design. Much appreciated.

 

Inotethat the speed controller and the battery are virtually on top of one another ..... is this wise or would the preference not be to have them spaced out a bit ? No particular reason for asking other than curiosity.

 

Toto

Personally I wouldn’t have them arranged that way but then again I wouldn’t leave the engine mounting bolts protruding back into the vicinity of the battery either!

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The seed has been planted for some time but the Supercub is doing such a good job. Not just that but I have the Domino to resurrect again whatever is causing those ESC failures. 

 

If I do sign up for another trainer though it will probably be the Boomerang. The benefit of having another of these type of kits is it forces you to get the install of the servos etc correct rather than the pre-installed ready to run from the box type. ( in my mind anyway ). I did notice that the EP version was about 150mm narrower in terms of wingspan than the ( red ) IC / EP version. 

 

That puts me off slightly but on the plus side, the EP version has the front nose cowl which I feel tidies it up a bit. 

 

Hmmm .... horses for courses .......

 

Toto

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Toto, the Boomerang kit comes complete with all of the parts for mounting either an electric motor or a proper engine. Don't you have a 46 two-stroke somewhere?  It could be a challenge for you once you have learned to fly.

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Yes David .... I have two force .46's but going on my experience with the Arising Star ...... it will be once I have learned to fly and gained enough experience on electric. My last attempt at IC was nothing short of a disaster. I'm in no hurry to repeat it, at least not at this stage of my journey as I am only starting to see real progress and want to keep it at that.

 

The force .46's will have their day ..... 😄

 

cheers

 

toto

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1 hour ago, toto said:

The force .46's will have their day ..... 😄

 

 

I'm glad to hear it but then I'm an engine man and appreciate the challenge of setting up a well-tuned engine.

 

I understand why novices prefer electric motors because they are eminently reliable, smooth, quiet and clean.

 

For those of us who don't mind getting outr hands dirty, i/c engines are our preferred power source if only because on a pretty standard tank you can fly for twenty minutes if yiou want to, ideal for training beginners. That said, beginners get tired quickly having to concentrate for long periods. Us Greybeards had to get to grips with i/c engines in the old days because electric propulsion was in its infancy. I/c engines are not difficult to master. On a two stroke glow, there are only two needles to adjust. I look forward to hearing of your experience of learning to use i/c engines, meanwhile, keep up with learning to fly on electric models.

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