David perry 1 Posted May 12, 2023 Author Share Posted May 12, 2023 I have two gallons, part used, of verynold MT fuel and i test run my engines on the bench with it. They run and idle perfectly but im sure all nitro vanished long ago. I guess it comes down to what we find works we use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J D 8 Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, David perry 1 said: Wow If i were clever id calculate the g imposed on the driver! Thats a lot of expensive fuel too. When a top fuel dragster "blasts off " leaves the line drivers are subjected to 8G for a brief time. Edited May 12, 2023 by J D 8 spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J D 8 Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 As noted in dragster post above [ and I think mentioned by Jon] engine design/set up has to be a bit different [ a lot different for top fuel] from normal to make the most of nitro. Chuk a pile more fuel and nitro into your normal car engine and most would go out of the exhaust unburnt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 Can't say I've ever seen a fashion for nitro myself, just a variety of fuels on offer and people making a choice of what to buy, read umpteen posts from those against it's use or using a % that differs from their own choice, why do you care if others have different ideas ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 Back in the day, when we learnt that Jon had researched that modernish Lasers were happy on half the oil, I mixed 10 litres of pure methanol, and 10 litres of 10 % nitromethane fuel. No complaints. Ran fine, needles leaned off a bit to reflect the greater calorific value of the fuel. I used 10 % for one motor that (the manufacturer said), needed it in those days, and it disintegrated after a failed bunt, and the ground intervened. That left me when I had finished the mix, with 10 litres of methanol. So, being tight, mixed it with 10 litres of 5% nitromethane. I did not notice any difference from the higher concentration of nitromethane, none whatsoever. I didn’t check with a tachometer, don’t own one. I operate a sea level. I have a climate about 4° warmer than the UK. Here ends my confession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Hearnden 1 Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 A trip a few years ago (7) to North Carolina on business. I sought out the various aero clubs. Very few flying IC, some big electrics, some small including EDF. What I did love was they all run big trailers, 20feet plus with standing room plus, fitted out as model rooms, with mains hook up for charging. These were towed generally by pick pickups, Ford F150 or Dodge Ram 1500. I work for a Texas company based near Austin. Generally our guys who are well paid, run smaller cars than you'd find in our car park in the UK (Pre-covid). Lots of Hyundais, Hondas & Kias. Smattering of Toyotas & Mazdas as well. Some have just found German stuff, generally BMW & also performance diesels also BMW. Think 530D/535D saloons & Tourings. The UK car park is generally SUVs, Volvo, Merc, BMW etc. In the USA the guys own a big pick up but that's used to tow the RV or boat at the weekend. Towing limits for these things are high above UK limits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 48 minutes ago, Don Fry said: Back in the day, when we learnt that Jon had researched that modernish Lasers were happy on half the oil, I mixed 10 litres of pure methanol, and 10 litres of 10 % nitromethane fuel. No complaints. Ran fine, needles leaned off a bit to reflect the greater calorific value of the fuel. I used 10 % for one motor that (the manufacturer said), needed it in those days, and it disintegrated after a failed bunt, and the ground intervened. That left me when I had finished the mix, with 10 litres of methanol. So, being tight, mixed it with 10 litres of 5% nitromethane. I did not notice any difference from the higher concentration of nitromethane, none whatsoever. I didn’t check with a tachometer, don’t own one. I operate a sea level. I have a climate about 4° warmer than the UK. Here ends my confession. How about your bunts, any different ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J D 8 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 American pickup's are daft, they are now so big you need a forklift to put any thing in the rear bed and 4x4 versions are so heavy on their little wheels they bog down if the going gets just a bit soft. Still the off road recovery folk make a living fishing them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David perry 1 Posted May 13, 2023 Author Share Posted May 13, 2023 So are smart cars, so often seen on british roads. So small they are one step removed from pointless for anyone and to someone of my size, a hefty 6ft3, absolutely so. Furthermore they wont carry a model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 12 hours ago, john stones 1 - Moderator said: How about your bunts, any different ? Don’t be provocative. I nearly made it, I’m ok for hight, arrrrrrrrh, roll/ yank. Debris field 30 odd meters long. Even identified the stone wot destroyed the motor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engine Doctor Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Don Fry said: Don’t be provocative. I nearly made it, I’m ok for hight, arrrrrrrrh, roll/ yank. Debris field 30 odd meters long. Even identified the stone wot destroyed the motor. Now if you had a "stone hitting competition" i bet you couldn't do it again 😄. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul De Tourtoulon Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Engine Doctor said: Now if you had a "stone hitting competition" i bet you couldn't do it again 😄. I hit a tree flat out in an uncontrolled dive yesterday with my 200 klm/h Novarossi powered Mirage 2000 well not really me it had a mind of its own, there was tree bark wedged between the engine's cooling fins, what sort of prize could I win for that ?. I do have photos of what was left, and have just put my welly's and two bin bags in the car, there is enough pollution here without me,,, Carburetor being repaired with old bits and my lathe,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Engine Doctor said: Now if you had a "stone hitting competition" i bet you couldn't do it again 😄. I have just made marmalade. I thought of you as I skinned the lemons. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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