toto Posted August 2, 2023 Author Share Posted August 2, 2023 Thanks Aidan, I think the film will maybe be the biggest issue if it can stand up to the sun to well but the rest ..... lack of glue etc can be remedied when you start to assemble if you know about any weaknesses in advance. They do look good as the overall shape looks realistic and the finishing graphics also compliment its style and era. The Barron and Bonnnza are more or less one ane the same except one is a single prop qne the other a twin. You can easily see the relationship with them and the fact that they have come from the same stable. They should look good at the field. Toto 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 All part of the journey Toto, we've all been there done that, the sticky back stuff can shatter like glass if punctured, carry some sticky back repair film when you get flying em. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Walby Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Eric Robson said: Chris, you have added weight with the Lasers, lighter engines will require extra ballast to balance. I have 2 VQ models they fly quite well. What I can't understand with a lot of ARTF models is the desire of the manufacturer to laser cut as much wood away from the nose area thereby weakening the part that needs the most strength then having the need for additional weight for an area already weakened. I bought a Kyosho Spitfire second hand, it flew very well but I eventually piled it in, pilot error,the front end collapsed, the structure turned to match wood, fortunately rear of the front wing former was not too bad so it was rebuilt using balsa and ply and less ballast. I would say that manufacturers of all models now make them to be electric and just badge them Ic so the old school guys can relate to them "oh its a 40 size model" the reality is it saves them money (materials and production time) + chances are almost all will be electric anyway. even the bigger stuff up to 80 inch I would say are aimed at the electric user. Not forgetting they are made to fly and not survive being crashed. Aidan, I have/had a Seagull Mosquito and Hurricane and both are well below par flying characteristics compared with VQ, in fact the Hurricane is a dog beyond belief. Ok it might be better quality but it won't make many flying minutes before its in a bin liner. IMO Seagull were good, have totally lost the plot with the hurricane and more recent offerings. If you gave me one, I would give it back and wish you all the best of luck, as you would need it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted August 2, 2023 Author Share Posted August 2, 2023 I think all manufacturers can have their " pink elephant ". For some, it's a blip .... for others .... it's a habit. Toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidan mcatamney Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 37 minutes ago, Chris Walby said: I would say that manufacturers of all models now make them to be electric and just badge them Ic so the old school guys can relate to them "oh its a 40 size model" the reality is it saves them money (materials and production time) + chances are almost all will be electric anyway. even the bigger stuff up to 80 inch I would say are aimed at the electric user. Not forgetting they are made to fly and not survive being crashed. Aidan, I have/had a Seagull Mosquito and Hurricane and both are well below par flying characteristics compared with VQ, in fact the Hurricane is a dog beyond belief. Ok it might be better quality but it won't make many flying minutes before its in a bin liner. IMO Seagull were good, have totally lost the plot with the hurricane and more recent offerings. If you gave me one, I would give it back and wish you all the best of luck, as you would need it. Thats the way of the world now Chris. Sadly nothing stays the same for too long . But all I can say is that all my Seagull model aircraft are top notch and have served me well for over ten years now. As time goes on quality can sometimes take a back seat. I'm lucky then that I bought them at the right time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Davis 2 Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Shame that VQ has received such mixed reviews. I've always fancied their Piper Tripacer myself. Guess I'll have to build one from the Sarik plans! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul De Tourtoulon Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 28 minutes ago, David Davis 2 said: Shame that VQ has received such mixed reviews. I've always fancied their Piper Tripacer myself. Guess I'll have to build one from the Sarik plans! You could probably get the VQ one for less than what it would cost to build, strip the film off, stick it together properly and then recover it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engine Doctor Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) I had the Duantless. It was gifted to me some years ago along with many issues to sort. Weighed a ton , found lots of bits with no glue, covering was awful sticky stuff and retracts not fit for purpose as bent so easily. Avoid VQ models unless you are a masochist or prefer building/ repairing more than flying. Edited August 3, 2023 by Engine Doctor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidan mcatamney Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 5 hours ago, Paul De Tourtoulon said: You could probably get the VQ one for less than what it would cost to build, strip the film off, stick it together properly and then recover it. Stear well clear of the VQ Piper Tripacer. That's the thoughts of You Tube legend Model RC Geeks. He built one and made a series of build videos on the plane and in his own words he said it was the worst plane he ever built and one to avoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted August 3, 2023 Author Share Posted August 3, 2023 Well, For better or for worse, ..... The VQ Beechcraft Bonanza has landed. On first inspection ( not detailed ) it looks amazing. But of course probably subject to the various failings as they would appear yo be known for as detailed above. All I can do is try and supplement any potential shortcomings with regards glue and general build strength which can hopefully be identified when I go over it in more detail prior to starting to assemble it. The covering, whilst it looks truly great ....... nothing I can do there short of a strip down and recover. I think I'll get what use I can do out of the original offering first. I'll post up some photos later and let you make up your own minds ..... but for some .......I think they are already .... justifiably ....... made up. Cheers Toto 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul De Tourtoulon Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 So how are you going to hang it up in your bedroom ?.😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted August 3, 2023 Author Share Posted August 3, 2023 Directly over SWMBO's 3/4 's of the bed. Can't go in the kitchen ...... too close proximity to SWMBO's steak pie. ..... no way. Toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidan mcatamney Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 30 minutes ago, toto said: Well, For better or for worse, ..... The VQ Beechcraft Bonanza has landed. On first inspection ( not detailed ) it looks amazing. But of course probably subject to the various failings as they would appear yo be known for as detailed above. All I can do is try and supplement any potential shortcomings with regards glue and general build strength which can hopefully be identified when I go over it in more detail prior to starting to assemble it. The covering, whilst it looks truly great ....... nothing I can do there short of a strip down and recover. I think I'll get what use I can do out of the original offering first. I'll post up some photos later and let you make up your own minds ..... but for some .......I think they are already .... justifiably ....... made up. Cheers Toto Good luck Toto with your Beechcraft Bonanza. I've seen it flying on You tube and it looks terrific. I love civilian planes and I wish you many hours of enjoyment with it. . Is it the V tail version or standard version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted August 3, 2023 Author Share Posted August 3, 2023 Hi Aidan, I went for the standard tail. The V tail looked appealing but I wasn't sure how it would effect flying characteristics. I note that they discontinued it on the life size version so just kept to the " norm ". The graphics .... like on the twin Barron version are very striking and when added to the overall modern look of the model, I could just imagine myself tearing up the skies ( and probably the rule book ) in one of these. I'll bung up some unboxing shots as I check it for any damage/ issues later. Cheers Toto 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidan mcatamney Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 4 hours ago, toto said: Hi Aidan, I went for the standard tail. The V tail looked appealing but I wasn't sure how it would effect flying characteristics. I note that they discontinued it on the life size version so just kept to the " norm ". The graphics .... like on the twin Barron version are very striking and when added to the overall modern look of the model, I could just imagine myself tearing up the skies ( and probably the rule book ) in one of these. I'll bung up some unboxing shots as I check it for any damage/ issues later. Cheers Toto I agree totally with your decision to go for the standard version and I also prefer the looks of it over the VTail. You've made the right choice there Toto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted August 3, 2023 Author Share Posted August 3, 2023 OK .... I said I would do this and there is three good reasons for doing so ..... 1. because I couldn't wait to get a better look ( good enough reason ) 2. because I wonted to check for any obvious damage 3. because I promised you lot i would post some piccies up. and actually a fourth .... because the box was damaged and this had me wondering ..... just some tape I put around the ripped box to hold it together better. and there she is ..... hopefully you can see the attraction .... Straight into the box and no apparent damage as yet .... this is good . destructions at the ready ..... some decals and a sheet of black and a sheet of white cheap crappy film .... are they trying to tell us something here .😄 I think the fuselage looks good .... attractive even .... and another ...... spot the PINK inside cabin ..... the one major thing that I think totally spoils it .... I am sure they could have come up with better. Tubes for control push rods etc .... one comes out of the top of the fuselage ..... I'll be interested to see where thats going ...... The cockpit cabin lid comes off ....... two nylon grommets to hold it in place and a little " nib " of wood that ties in at the front to hold it secure ..... a general shot of the underside of the cockpit cabin ..... the long shot towards the rear ...... and the same towards the front ...... the firewall ...... The tail piece ... some rivet detail .... the lovely rudder section ..... the two wings .... bound together .... I did not bother undoing them. Unfortunately neither side showed the retract opening but that will become evident once I start the build thread. the Simon ..... looks OK .... the clear LED light on the front of the cowl. bags of hard ware .... landing gear , wheels etc ..... and screws and horns and ...... everything else you would expect .... retract opening dressing pieces ..... I think a mount if you are going electric ...... which I don't think I am ........ and more stuff .... antenna and things and stuff ...... there we have it ..... make up your own mind cheers toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted August 3, 2023 Author Share Posted August 3, 2023 I'm just looking at this and I think the push rod coming out of the top of the fuselage is for the rudder control ....... the only thing it can be ....... what a crappy set up .... toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted August 3, 2023 Author Share Posted August 3, 2023 One last one ..... with its twin ..... you've gotta like it ..... toto 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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