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Geoff Gardiner
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So, flaps next....

 

I pondered on this for a bit and came up with this method.

 

First off, I 3d printed myself a little slot cutting guide for the hinges which are 3mm beneath the outer surface.

 

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Then I prepared the sheeting by soaking/steaming it then wrapping it around a broom handle and left to dry overnight.

 

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I fitted one flap with sheeting and then realised it would be easier to fit the 'cricket bat' first, which I did for the other one.

 

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Finally, this is how I needed to cut the rib to allow the flap to be fitted.

 

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I can patch it up later on.

 

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Bit more done.

 

Some more sheeting on the wing.

 

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Installed the flap servo mounting tray.

 

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I have trimmed down the dowel plate to fit. Time will tell if this is the correct approach.

 

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Fitted and profiled the remaining leading edge strips.

 

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Bit more done:

 

Added some dials to the instrument panel.

 

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Fitted the nose block and sheeting to the underside.

 

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My method of trimming the cowl.

 

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I took advantage of some rare dry weather this afternoon and did a bit of sanding outdoors.

 

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  • 3 weeks later...

I've been a bit sidetracked recently with other stuff but have got a bit more done:

 

I decided to make the motor mount/battery box removable in case I decide to fit a sound system at a later date.

 

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Next job was to sort the wing mounting. After fitting some m4 bolts into the back of the T-nut, I put some marker pen ink on the ends and then fitted the wing and pressed down to make an imprint.

 

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After drilling the holes slightly oversive, I then 3d printed a pair of washers. This allows fine adjustment of the position of the wing by measuring from the tailpost to each wing tip and adjusting until they are the same. The washers are then glued in place.

 

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I then made a start on the wing fairings.

 

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I'm enjoying this build Geoff . I agree with Ron . Very nice details . Its a pleasure to watch . 

On the brown paper front : use a known brand PVA glue, Evostik or white Gorrilla and virtually no dilution with water , maybe 5% .

Ive found over the years that its tempting to water the glue down as it spreads easily , but you will definitely get some blisters.

Neat glue or nearly neat glue takes more time to paste , but once done its on for good , no wrinkles or blisters . 

Good luck 

Richard 

 

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18 hours ago, RICHARD WILLS said:

Worth a try . its not heat reactive like PVA so for the cost saving , it may not work out . 

Richard, can you explain what you mean by heat reactive. What is the reaction when heated, apart from the fact of driving off some water from the emulsion based adhesive. 

Many thanks Bas

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2 hours ago, Basil said:

Richard, can you explain what you mean by heat reactive. What is the reaction when heated, apart from the fact of driving off some water from the emulsion based adhesive. 

Many thanks Bas

 

Yes Bas , 

              If you paste some PVA on Brown paper or even wood , it will go dry to touch in about 30mins . 

However if you place the glue side down on another surface and iron the dry side , the heat will turn the glue tacking and then rapidly cool and adhere for good . 

So , in a way , you have created your own solarfilm . 

You cant do that with wallpaper paste as far as I know . 

Apart from brown paper covering the other use for this feature is when adding plywood doublers to fuselage sides . 

You coat one side of the doublers with PVA . Wait till dry to touch . Align the doubler over the balsa fuselage (glue downward) then iron the doubler down . 

In this technique the advantages are clear . No clamping or weight required . The two items don't slide around . 

Unlike contact adhesive , you can adjust position right until heat is applied . 

Try it on some thin scrap wood . 

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14 minutes ago, Geoff Gardiner said:

My glue of choice at the moment is Titebond Original, which I believe is an aliphatic glue.

 

Are aliphatics any good with the brown paper covering method / heat reactivity, or will I need PVA?

 

Cheers.

Possibly, but its an expensive way of doing compared with PVA glue (when you buy 5L of trade stuff).

 

Oh and the other thing if its Tesco (other long rolls of brown paper are available) ..don't buy a couple extra rolls just in case...because you don't waste much in off cuts so it goes a very long way!

 

PS the brown paper stock I now have will out live me!

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Flyer 

The method when using brown paper, is to paste it, wait 1 min for it to grow, then apply it wet, so when ironed on it shrinks like appling any film covering, this adding strength to the model. 

Using a cheap pva - it'll be watered down more, not good as bubbles the paper.

Bye a quality brand 😉 and dilute about 5%, 

Richards just done a write up on this on another thread.

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15 hours ago, Geoff Gardiner said:

My glue of choice at the moment is Titebond Original, which I believe is an aliphatic glue.

 

Are aliphatics any good with the brown paper covering method / heat reactivity, or will I need PVA?

 

Cheers.

Dont know about Aliphatics regarding heat reaction . I'd stick to what we know for the covering Geoff. 

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Went to do a bit of brown paper covering of the tail assemby and found that the fin and rudder are warped.

 

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I have soaked them in hot water for half an hour and they are currently drying on a flat surface under some weight.

 

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I will see if this cures the problem.

 

Rounded off the edges of the tailplane and elevators whilst I wait for it to dry.

 

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The rudder has straightened out but the fin is proving more of a problem. I have tried steaming it over the kettle to see if that does the trick.

 

I had a try at covering with brown paper today, using white Gorilla PVA glue, and early indications are looking promising.

 

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I think I might try water based varnish to seal the paper before painting.

 

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Geoff , have you tried just wetting the concave side , but keeping the other dry ?

That's how they get warped in the first place . One side gets damp and expands while the other stays dry . 

Try it and see what happens even without the weight after . 

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Geoff, after covering with brown paper I just seal with another coat of slightly diluted PVA before painting. I apply PVA to both sides otherwise the tailplane or fin may warp as it dries. You end up with a smooth satin finish which takes paint well.

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