toto Posted November 3 Author Share Posted November 3 OK .... picking up from where I left off .... nearly done .... last of the main roof strips going on ..... and we are there ..... me lending a hand to measure for the edging pieces ..... and again ...... onto the edges and .....the home run ..... getting there .... onto the other side ..... and turning the corner ..... to start the last run home ...... C'mon ..... get your finger out ..... there is a beer waiting ...... did you say beer ...... job done bar some minor tidying up and trimming ...... another task bites the dust .... more later. cheers toto 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted November 3 Author Share Posted November 3 So ..... moving on to tomorrows tasks ...... fit the vertical facia pieces to cover the joints in the wall sections to both sides and front and back sealing the joints with mastic ( as provided ) as I go. All .... fit the USB and HDMI cables through their wiring routes inside the shed. they arrived today so can be installed. Various other small tasks that will be decided tomorrow once I get the chance to take stock of what needs done before installing the wall insulation and plywood wall and ceiling linings which arrive Tuesday. loads to be getting on with .... should be moved into and operational before Christmas. cheers for now toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted November 4 Author Share Posted November 4 Weather a little bit miserable today with the threat of rain. Never-ending, come hell or high water, I need to get the remaining vertical facial on in order to achieve water tightness. First it to fill the adjoining panel gaps with silicone and then to apply some of the same to the rear of the facial before screwing over the panel joins. Nothing to complicated in that. ..... I'm just sitting debating if I can drag myself into the shower to invigorate myself into getting started. ... had a long lie this morning as I am currently out of contract. ( with a few irons in the fire ). I'd like to get these done and let myself move on to measuring up the lighting points and getting the various internal dwangs fitted. I also have data cabling that I can start getting in place. Getting the facial fitted will help clear further space for the arrival of the celotex insulation and the plywood linings due tomorrow. No rest for the wicked. Photos to follow. Cheers for now Toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted November 4 Author Share Posted November 4 So cracked on with the fitting of the facia's and applying sealant to the biggest gaps between the panels which were the joins to the front as it happens. finishes it off nicely. there are about 12 of these to be fitted. the last one about to go on which runs down the side of the door ... and a shot of the data cables which I may move onto tonight ..... thats all for now .... i'm away for something to eat and work out what I can attack next. cheers toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted November 4 Author Share Posted November 4 Ok ..... so started installing dwangs for 3 out of 4 of my webcam recorder positions ..... Bench Cam directly above the workbench area .... like so .... Next up .... the Overhead Cam .... directly above the PC chair area ..... and the Assembly Cam .... directly above the model assembly area .... there is one more that points directly at the PC operators face which will be attached to the wall at the desk area. these cameras ( Overhead and Bench cams can be adjusted in such a way that they can also be used for alternative views of the Assembly area. Next was a few dwangs to stiffen up the partition wall .... here is how it was ..... a couple of stiffeners ...... if you look along the partition to where it meets the wall ...... there is an upright missing .... see where ..... there ...... so ..... resolved ....... there we go .... done .... I done a little tidying up in advance of the Celotex insulation and plywood lining arriving tomorrow .... at some point. I'm waiting for my buddy to drop off a 100mm wood cutter to bore through the outside cladding, insulation and inside ply lining for installation of the vents and ducting. Fingers crossed he remembers to drop it off or I will be more or less standing still. Think I'll give him a quick call. cheers for now Toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted November 4 Author Share Posted November 4 Just thinking .... there will be plenty natural ventillation via around a dozen high and low level vents that I am installing but should I think about an actual extractor fan ..... Hmmmmm .... answers on a postcard please. Cheers Toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Walby Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 Yes to an extract fan and the type with louvers so its not always draughty. You could position it so you could make an extract hood/area for sanding or painting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted November 4 Author Share Posted November 4 Thinking about over the work bench area. Now would be thr time in order to get the cabling done and the vent fitted. Could be a string pull or a 13 amp switched spur fused down to 5 amp. Decisions ... decisions. Toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Walby Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 Switch fuse spur in easy reach as its the sort of thing that you will switch on, do the job and then switch off before leaving. IMO Teaching grandma to suck eggs but but try and avoid the lights behind you when working at the bench as you'll have to work in your own shadow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted November 4 Author Share Posted November 4 (edited) Thinking along the same lines about the switched spur and also have ordered a series of smaller two foot led battens ( to be switched separately from the main lighting ) to locate directly above the work bench areas as task lighting. I did think about the shadows etc. They arrive later this week but will get the wiring in place for these over the next day or two. Thanks for the input though .... its good to have a second opinion behind what I am doing. Always welcome. Cheers Toto Edited November 4 by toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted November 4 Author Share Posted November 4 Looks like I won't get the 100mm core cutter until tomorrow evening at the earliest ... so I either wait for it ... or go out and buy my own. Hmmm. I have plastic spacers... the type used for building kitchen units which I was going to screw to the inside of the stud partitions so that when I cut the insulation and push into place within the stud, it stops the insulation going further back keeping the face of the insulation flush with the face of the timber studs. The Ply goes hard up against both. I will need to install quite a few so may start that very mundane job whilst I wait. Always something that can be done. I'll post up with any progress pictures as usual. Cheers Toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted November 4 Author Share Posted November 4 Sitting here with my mind racing. Thinking of ways to maintain a level drill whilst drilling a pilot through all the wall layers. I have a good idea for keeping level on the lower pilot hole by sitting my drill 9n top of a platform / jig at low level. That will give me a level height as I push the drill through the wall but won't necessarily keep me straight so some careful " eyeing up as I progress there. I should be able to line it within a reasonably acceptable tolerance to keep the duct lining up straight from inside to outside. It should also k33p all of my 6 low level grilles at a constant height from the floor. The high level ducts will be another matter but will come up with something to keep the height as I go through the numerous wall layers reasonably consistent. I need to go to B and Q to get a long pilot drill suitable for timber. Maybe 150mm long or so as the wall thickness will be around 107 mm thick approximately. 38mm cladding, 60mm void ( partially filled by Celotex and 9mm internal plywood. A dozen holes in total and one for an extractor so this could take some time. ..... and the build slows down for a bit. Won't do any harm to take me time and get the best out of the job. Until tomorrow. Toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cripps Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 Get a piece of scrap timber and accurately drill a vertical pilot hole at a distance equal to the height of your required hole above the floor. Set this against the wall and use it as a jig to drill the pilot hole square and at the correct height. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leccyflyer Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 13 hours ago, Chris Walby said: Switch fuse spur in easy reach as its the sort of thing that you will switch on, do the job and then switch off before leaving. IMO Teaching grandma to suck eggs but but try and avoid the lights behind you when working at the bench as you'll have to work in your own shadow Indeed. Aside from the four main LED strip lights in the ceiling, each bench has a shorter LED strip light mounted over the benches at intervals, to provide light that you are not standing between the light and the bench. Once you start hanging aeroplanes from the ceiling it's remarkable how the light levels start to drop off, so it's worthwhile having some portable and repositionable task lighting for intricate work as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted November 5 Author Share Posted November 5 Hi Leccy, I have some desk mountable LED fill lights and will no doubt add to the collection once I try things outand see what's required. I have ordered 3 x 2 foot LED battens for spacing along the workbench. They will be switchable from both ends of the workbench. Awaiting my insulation and Ply delivery which I am told will be mid afternoon even though I am 5 minutes from the depot. When you live in such close proximity ..... you are either first ...... or in my case ..... last ..... Never mind, I am limbering up my thought processes whilst I wait. Cheers for now Toto 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted November 5 Author Share Posted November 5 Delivery been. plywood stacked under tarpaulin for now. Some Celotex ready for tonights work ..... and some more ...... should be plenty if not a little over measured. So ..... later tonight ( after tea ) I'll start installing the little spacers into the studs and getting the Celotex cut and in place ....... watch for the sparks coming from my heels ....😂 Until then ..... auf weidersehn. toto toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learner Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 1 hour ago, toto said: Delivery been. plywood stacked under tarpaulin for now. Some Celotex ready for tonights work ..... and some more ...... should be plenty if not a little over measured. So ..... later tonight ( after tea ) I'll start installing the little spacers into the studs and getting the Celotex cut and in place ....... watch for the sparks coming from my heels ....😂 Until then ..... auf weidersehn. toto toto Don't forget your mask cutting/fitting the insulation, don't want to be breathing in fibres! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted November 5 Author Share Posted November 5 (edited) I have a decent mask Learner ..... if I can find it. It could be packed in storage but may still have some covid masks somewhere. Toto In hindsight, Ithink scoring it and snapping ot with a Stanley knife works so ther may not be much sawing which would be worse so may not be as much spores given off. Toto Edited November 5 by toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted November 5 Author Share Posted November 5 OK ..... so tonight .... insulation was the name of the game .... i started off fitting my spacers .... and the first of the insulation boards .... as above. soon got into the swing of it ....... and we are off ..... one side done ...... looking pretty damn good I trhink .... then started working down the side wall towards the door. leaving a couple of diagonal cuts for tomorrow as I was getting a bit tired . never had any tea tonight so off to get something now. The cables for the low level sockets on the back ( model ) wall have all been pulled through at the correct height but are out of shot so you can't see them. some of these will need to be prised out again anyway when I come to fitting the vents but thats no hardship. thats me for tonight ..... more of the same tomorrow. cheers for now and hope its been interesting so far. toto 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted November 5 Author Share Posted November 5 I have a piece in the last shot that is as rough as a rag man's trumpet. That's what you get when you work with off cuts with no straight edges. Don't know why I done it as it looks like there is going to be some whole sheets left over. Just seems a shame not to use the cutting as it went in in one piece. So tomorrow .... finish the side wall with all the diagonals etc and then move down to the other end. My intention .... may be ...... to actually start sheeting and installing T ducts to the walls that have been insulated to date as I want to keep the front wall ( with the majority of the electrics and data ) open as long as possible as I and constantly adding and changing things on that wall as things / ideas develop. This stage is full of twists and turns and could make or break the effectiveness of the overall installation .......... interesting times and things wil hotten up over the next few days with all sorts coming into play. Great stuff Toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted November 6 Author Share Posted November 6 Well ..... at the risk of inundating you all with yet another update ( please read that as " switch off if you like " or " dont bother opening the post if it annoys you" ) I'm sitting here trying to summons the energy gods to get my backside in gear and reach for the insulation cutting tools. I'm trying to reach the point of completing all but the main front wall with insulation .... then stopping and doubling back to start fitting out the vents. Most of the electrical stuff and data are on the front wall so I'll keep it open for changes as long as I can. I bought a 102mm drill / cutter with mandrill from B and Q yesterday which due to its shallow cutting depth will mean cutting from both sides of the wall. I will drill a pilot through from the outside which will hopefully give me my starting points for both inside and out..... in theory. Anyway ..... complete the insulation first .... I'm getting too far ahead of myself for now. I'll post up some progress shots later ..... no shiny video clips here ..... for now. Hope this is of interest .... no offence taken if you switch off or ignore. Cheers for now Toto 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted November 6 Author Share Posted November 6 Forgot to add in last nights post ....... the end wall of the shed needed extra vertical supports added. No issue with structural integrity but just thought that the width between studs was too wide, especially thinking ahead to possibly hanging units / shelves from the walls in the future. I will need to do the same with the other end wall and will make that my starting point today. ..... still struggling to get going at the moment ...... more coffee required. Cheers for now. Toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted November 6 Author Share Posted November 6 OK ..... a little bit of a change of plan ..... I needed a bit more of a break from the insulation for now. here is the angled pieces that I will be starting on shortly .... and here are the extra stud partitions that I erected into one of the end walls last night ..... basically every second stud. above is the other end that needs a couple of extra studs which I will put up prior to recommencing on the insulation again. making way for the ring main socket wiring. and again. These are on the back " model storage " wall and I will need to cut out the insulation to make way for a " fast fix " dry lining back box. the installation of 3 out of 6 HDMI and USB cabling set ups per camera point. I am waiting a couple more being delivered today so will get them finished tonight. and again ..... that front wall is starting to get busy with cables that are all awaiting the installation of the 3 compartment dado trunking. and the last one for now. Now a quick coffee break and then a visit to B and Q for a couple of single sockets with built in USB's and a couple more single " fast fix " boxes to suit. cheers for now toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Burton Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 1 hour ago, toto said: single sockets Why not doubles ? You can never have too many sockets 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toto Posted November 6 Author Share Posted November 6 Hi Bob, I'd normally agree there. I always install doubles as it no more work or no real increase in cost. However, the reason for these two sockets ( with USB's ) ..... one is for a clock at high level which requires a USB and the other a sign which also requires a USB so thought I'd install single sockets with both 13amp supply and USB supply in case any future use requires the 13amp socket. It just keeps the high level stuff a bit neater that's all really. Every other 13amp socket ( and there are a few ) are all doubles. A mixture of some with USB's and some without. Hope that explains things Cheers Toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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