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Simon Roberts Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 3Edited By Timbo - Moderator on 19/10/2009 22:51:28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Clive Matthews Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 Recounting, there must be an error in my math! Edited By Clive Matthews on 20/10/2009 09:09:23 OK votes so far, 4 votes option 1, A cert required to fly solo but may fly other types solo 37 votes option 2, A cert not required to fly solo if flyer safe 19 votes option 3, A cert required to fly solo for each type of model ie heli, FW etc. Phew, I may have avoided a lynching there! Edited By Clive Matthews on 20/10/2009 09:16:19 Edited By Clive Matthews on 20/10/2009 09:16:44Edited By Clive Matthews on 20/10/2009 09:17:43 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Ah well, at least we have 19 sensible forum members then TAXI !! Edited By Timbo - Moderator on 20/10/2009 09:48:02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.k.watts Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 and another Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Privett Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I've not voted yet, as I feel the question is somewhat ambiguous. In what way do you mean "a requirement?" If you mean required by law, then 2.If you mean required by clubs, then probably 3 - but it's each club's decision. If they really want to reinvent the wheel then it could be 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Darter Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Martin Harris - Moderator Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I assumed you meant by law so voted 2. I was waiting to see what conclusions you drew from the straw poll before commenting but now that people are starting to comment, draw conclusions and possibly influence the voting, it is no longer valid and I will withdraw my vote please.Edited By Martin Harris on 20/10/2009 13:45:48 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Matthews Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 Martin, I agree. I had thought that it might be unreasonable to clarify after people had voted. As you have demonstrated, changing your vote is a possibility and I promise to be vigilant to this. So I will clarify the meaning intended; The vote was never intended to reflect a situation which does not exist ie. 'By Law' The vote was intended to reflect the existing situation whereby clubs under BMFA guidance decide to make the rule that solo flyers must hold an A cert. If I word it as follows, I hope the vote meets with general acceptance. I must reiterate, this is not intended to affect or influence policy and is just for fun. It will however give an idea of the general feeling. In order to fly at any BMFA club site, should an A certificate be held. Yes - Indicate 1 in your response. Can fly any discipline with any A No - Indicate 2 in your response. Must be safe but A not compulsory. Yes, for each discipline (ie. fixed wing, heli and silent) Indicate 3 in your response. In other words an 'A' for each type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Matthews Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 The amended current vote will now be; Option 1 = 4 votes Option 2 = 36 votes Option 3 = 23 votes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Trouble is you have now changed the criteria and this in turn means some folk may have voted a different way. It is not possible for members to change what they have posted after someone else has posted after them....and I am sure as heck not going to accept requests from people to edit the post for them, as this would take too long, and also could be misinterpreted. I have however deleted Martins post as requested.Edited By Timbo - Moderator on 20/10/2009 15:15:19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Matthews Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 Yes well you also made it clear how you wanted the vote to go. Rip the lot off! It was only supposed to be an indicator anyway. I had made it clear that I had accepted and deleted the accounting of Martin's vote and that I would amend the total similarly for others who felt that they were in the same position. I have not changed the criteria at all. The problem may have been that I hadn't made it crystal clear in the first place. When the problem was highlighted, twice, I tried to respond in a fair and reasonable manner. As the situation of legal enforcement doesn't exist, I had not considered it as being in peoples minds. It does seem to me that no matter how hard I try to be fair and even minded, opposing the so called accepted view lands me into bother. Voting over - conclusion void! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Channon Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 " A " cert not required if the model flyer is safe to fly. Just my 2p worth Regards as always Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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