winchweight Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 New York Seems to have been done with full approval of the authorities too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Same posting on another forum which did not suggest it had the "full approval of authorities" in fact took the line as being highly irresponsible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon B Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 The bit that says 'Arrests: 0', coupled with the rebel vibe of the images suggest this wasn't done with approval. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 ...and everything in sharp focus until the shots that could identify the perpetrators. Can you imagine anything more likely to focus "official minds" against first party view flying in particular and model aviation in general than the this sort of irresponsible behaviour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leccyflyer Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 The flight was not done with the approval of the authorities, broke FAA rules in flying in controlled airspace without permission and potentially set the efforts of those trying their very best to ensure that the hobby is not subject to stringent regulation back by years. Rest assure, that video will be aired in the deliberations as to how many, and how tight, the restrictions to be put on small unmanned aircraft are going to be. The flight was incredibly irresponsible and detrimental to the hobby in general and FPV in particular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W-O Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 First thing that comes to my mind, never mind the wisdom or legalities, is what a dump, can't understand why anyone would want to visit, let alone live there. It looks like one of the Sci-fi horror movies where every inch of land is covered with concrete. As for the actions, totally dumb, and lucky nothing went wrong. But not unexpected, or surprised by it, somehow it seems to fit in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leccyflyer Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Posted by Simon B on 29/01/2011 10:38:52:The bit that says 'Arrests: 0', coupled with the rebel vibe of the images suggest this wasn't done with approval. Posted by Martin Harris on 29/01/2011 11:04:18:...and everything in sharp focus until the shots that could identify the perpetrators. Can you imagine anything more likely to focus "official minds" against first party view flying in particular and model aviation in general than the this sort of irresponsible behaviour. The identity of the pilot - an Austrian who flew to New York just to make that flight in order to "make a point" in an internet argument - is well known, having been widely publicised in the media. There isn't the slightest doubt that the authorities know exactly who he is and in the unlikely event of him trying to fly to the USA again he'd better be ready for some serious probing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Seem to recall a certain slopetrash posting same clip on this very forum some time ago?Edited By Tim Mackey - Administrator on 30/01/2011 18:10:14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly boy3 Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 H i Timbo, would it be wise to put the name of the pilot on the forum. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Not sure why we would want to ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly boy3 Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 I think you are right Timbo, he has caused quite a stir in the FPV forums. I agree with leccyflier, regarding iresponsibilty and the problems it could cause the FPV fraternity, and r/c in general especially in the US. Cheers FB3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Ignoring the irresponsibility bit, the flights seem to demonstrate the potential for carrying out acts which could threaten life and property. The potential to over react by authorities seems very real from demonstrations such as of this type. Although I consider that motorised hang gliders, micro lights and light aircraft have the capability of carrying out more devastating acts, the commercial interests and necessary training requirements willalmost certainly be seen as producing a lower level of threat by authorities, than a FPV model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMarc Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Whilst I understand the concerns expressed here - that was a very neat piece of flying... Or am I alone in thinking this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMarc Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Posted by Steve W-O on 30/01/2011 14:17:10: First thing that comes to my mind, never mind the wisdom or legalities, is what a dump, can't understand why anyone would want to visit, let alone live there. It looks like one of the Sci-fi horror movies where every inch of land is covered with concrete. Written by a man who has probably never been there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I have been there with work - it is a concrete jungle and a bit of a depressing place IMO. I wouldn't welcome a return trip and I certainly wouldn't go there voluntarily BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMarc Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 How can anyone not be impressed by New York? Did you not marvel at the marble 3 storey entrance lobby of the Empire State? The beauty of Grand Central Station? Were you not choked by the Steel Workers Union plaque on the Rockefella Building, thanking him personaly for keeping 5,000 men employed during the depression? Did you not stand outside the Dakota building and gaze across to Strawberry Fields in Central Park? (work it out...) Did you not spend an afternoon wandering around the Brownstones of Greenwich Village, people watching from an Italian cafe? As you can probably tell - I loved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Perhaps its like Marmite? BEB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mackey Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Been 5 times, and loved every single one ( except the time we were up the twin towers on September 10th, and luckily flew home that same evening!! Terrible terrible emotions from us both the next day, as we sat at home watching the tragic events unfold on screen before our very eyes.Ive done most of the touristy stuff, heli flight over Manhatten and the Hudson, E State building, MOMA, Liberty Island, been up the liberty statue and walked around her crown ( sadly no longer poss since 9/11). John Lennon memorial gardens in Central park horse and trap tours, etc etc. One particular highlight was an afternoon exploring the wonderful Grand Central Station. Walk over the Brooklyn bridge, take a snack at the pier, Broadway shows in the evening, followed by Chinatown, the list goes on and on.I thoroughly recommend it to anyone who has a spirit of adventure and can take the yanks as they are - I found 'em terrific, particualrly our hosts on one trip, which were supplied free through the organisation known as the big apple greeters. Truly amazing. ILNY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Moore Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 This clip and others made their way on to Paragliding Forum and there was quite a discussion about the dangers of flying FPV in the company of paragliders (as it could bring one down.) The 'flyer' (Raphael Pirker) described in detail the electronics, the fail safes etc., and takes a very responsible attitude to safety, etc. He got a lot of positive karma on there for his posts and attitude. I think it's a pretty interesting clip. Haven't been to NY but wouldn't mind, if someone wants to pay my fare! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W-O Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Posted by MarkyMarc on 01/02/2011 13:08:17:Posted by Steve W-O on 30/01/2011 14:17:10: First thing that comes to my mind, never mind the wisdom or legalities, is what a dump, can't understand why anyone would want to visit, let alone live there. It looks like one of the Sci-fi horror movies where every inch of land is covered with concrete. Written by a man who has probably never been there.... Quite correct, but not relevant as I was commenting on what I saw in the clip. I have no doubt that many people who live there like it, and I wouldn't comment on their feelings about it, only on the clip given. Places I like in the world probably would look quite terrible to people looking at Youtube clips, especially to people who have never been outside Europe or holiday destinations. However, I think BEB's comment would be echoed by me if I was to visit, which is extremely unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lima Hotel Foxtrot Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Posted by MarkyMarc on 01/02/2011 12:42:34:Whilst I understand the concerns expressed here - that was a very neat piece of flying... Or am I alone in thinking this? I concour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMarc Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 However, I think BEB's comment would be echoed by me if I was to visit, which is extremely unlikely. Lol! Sounds like people who complain about a TV programme when they haven't watched it. "If I had seen the programme, I'm sure I would have been offended by it!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W-O Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Posted by MarkyMarc on 01/02/2011 16:44:12:However, I think BEB's comment would be echoed by me if I was to visit, which is extremely unlikely. Lol! Sounds like people who complain about a TV programme when they haven't watched it. "If I had seen the programme, I'm sure I would have been offended by it!" I've just seen the clip which makes it look like I wouldn't want to visit, and from what I see on the clip, I would echo BEB's comments if it was like the clip (hence the "think") I don't see how the TV programme comparison is "like" it at all ! Just to point out again, my comments are based on what I see in the clip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Smalley Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 its got nothing to do with great flying or not what you fail to understand is this! its against the law (the ANO) to do this without full permission of all authorities and the CAA it does not take much for some people in power to just ban things they nothing about and all because some rad dude thinks its fun to fly down the main street and then hits someone!! witness Spains reaction to something recently!!! and in the blink of an eye we all loose the ability to do what we all love doing flying! so to come on here and say what great flying is somehow missing the point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMarc Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Come on Lee - take the needle out of your arm! If you strip away the objections, the legalities - which I know as a responsible flyer you shouldn't - it is a skillful piece of flying in an absolute sense. and... As a subscriber and a forum member, I can come on here and say what I want... within the limits of the Code of Conduct. Edited By David Ashby - RCME Administrator on 01/02/2011 17:46:23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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