twinstar Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 how about a nice motorglider like a ximango **LINK** or a phoenix **LINK** or any glider ? ..any? ..at all ? please ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concorde Speedbird Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Posted by Erfolg on 03/09/2012 22:07:02: CSB I doubt that TH next model will be a scaled up CS. He said himself that his next design will probably be a scaled up Clean Sweep, in his post below the picture of the glider. I looked at the original's plan, a two stroke would not be too hard but a four stroke (which is what I prefer) would probably need a new shorter and larger in diameter nose probably. But at a model at 47" span, there is not much point, electric is fine but a 60 inch one would be suited either way, it certainly is a lovely looking plane and I bet a bigger one would fly beautifully like the small one! CS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hooper Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Chris, The Synergy does look very striking! The RC prototype looks to perform very well too..... Just a point to ponder; the design may well be subject to various copyright and patents, so building a model (intended to be published in a magazine) may well invite a lawsuit. When I drew up the Speedtwin recently, I made sure I had the written permission of the owner of the project. On a different tack, how about this one? Spot the propeller...... tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concorde Speedbird Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Is it the Spad A2, where the prop is in the body? Modelling that woud be different and interesting! If you want a challenge, how about a model that can do this?! CS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bott - Moderator Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Posted by Tim Hooper on 03/09/2012 22:45:57: Chris, The Synergy does look very striking! The RC prototype looks to perform very well too..... Just a point to ponder; the design may well be subject to various copyright and patents, so building a model (intended to be published in a magazine) may well invite a lawsuit. When I drew up the Speedtwin recently, I made sure I had the written permission of the owner of the project. Ah OK, well that's a shame but I understand. (They might quite like the publicity?) Ah well, still looking forward to whatever you do decide upon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gilder Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Posted by ConcordeSpeedbird on 03/09/2012 23:04:10: Is it the Spad A2, where the prop is in the body? Modelling that woud be different and interesting! If you want a challenge, how about a model that can do this?! CS They already have CS. They are called Helicpoters!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Adams Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Hi Tim, dont know whether it would be to complicated or not,but i would love to see a plan of the Fairy Rotodyne!....having said that if that is to o.t.t how about a nice classic british jet fighter of maybe a Gloster Javelin or Blackburn Buccaneer?...whatever the chosen aircraft will be im sure it would have bags of character being designed by Tim....the piston provost sounds good to Christian!....SA Twin Pioneer could be woth a look as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hooper Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Steve, I think there have been several attempts at the Rotodyne - very few successful..... Again, this is a concept completely outside my comfort zone of experience! The guy you need to talk to is gyro expert Richard Harris. tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 There certainly are a number of second WW1 aircraft which are attractive, as mentioned the SPAD, some Neuiports, the Phalz. Unfortunately unless you like pig ugly aircraft, most British aircraft are essentially flying boxes. There are many inter-war aircraft which are really attractive and interesting. Beechcraft 17, WACO SRE, Monocoupe, Lockheed Vega, most of the US air race aircraft. Yet I suspect that Tim particularly favours British aircraft, so how about the Heston Racer, or DH Albatross? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hooper Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Posted by Erfolg on 05/09/2012 11:11:18: ....WACO SRE....., Yet I suspect that Tim particularly favours British aircraft, so how about the Heston Racer, or DH Albatross? Hi Erf, You're right on the money regarding the SRE. I did a 67" rendition some years ago for the 'other channel.... . tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daithi O Buitigh Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 "...I'd love to have a bash at the Supermarine Seamew at some point in the future as well..." .You do mean the SHORT Seamew I take it Tim . They were built just a few miles away from where I lived back then - in Belfast One problem with them is the tail - there was no cut-out on the slab elevator for rudder movement (it had a 'twin' rudder - part above the elevator and part below - which part was used depended on whether there was up or down elevator) Edited By Daithi O Buitigh on 06/09/2012 03:40:38 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hooper Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Posted by Daithi O Buitigh on 06/09/2012 03:37:54: .You do mean the SHORT Seamew I take it Tim . They were built just a few miles away from where I lived back then - in Belfast One problem with them is the tail - there was no cut-out on the slab elevator for rudder movement (it had a 'twin' rudder - part above the elevator and part below - which part was used depended on whether there was up or down elevator) Edited By Daithi O Buitigh on 06/09/2012 03:40:38 My mistake - apologies! The Seamew has quite a few problems really. Mid wing (one piece or two?), long undercarriage, low thrustline, etc. Hmmmmm........... tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 The SRE you made looks really good, just a tad big for me. Although with a plan I wold re-scale down to the 40" span. As for the Seamew, a shocking plane in service according to reports. I can imagine the same issues that adversely affected the full size , would be replicated in a model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Simmons Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 There are 3 different types of Seamew. Supermarine Seamew of 1928, a forerunner of the walrus. Curtiss S03C Seamew of 1940. A floatplane Short Seamew 1953 for RN. It never entered service and the project was cancelled. You all were correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 It certainly had some service An order was placed in February 1955 for 60 aircraft (split evenly between the FAA and RAF), with Seamew XA213 successfully completing carrier trials on HMS Bulwark in July and December 1955. Naval service flight trials with two Seamews were carried out with 700 Naval Air Squadron in November 1956, which included catapult trials and around 200 takeoffs and landings on HMS Warrior. The RAF lost interest after four Mk 2s were built with three of them converted to AS1 standard; the fourth (XE175) was flown by S/L W. "Wally" J. Runciman for a series of sales tours in 1956 to Italy (March), Yugoslavia (April) and West Germany (May). It seems to have had some service and been less than convincing. The full description is on Wikipedia Edited By Erfolg on 07/09/2012 16:15:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Simmons Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 In the first paragraph of your Wikipedia link, it says that only 24 flew and although RN pilots flew it during tests and trails, it did not enter service. Was it replaced by Fairey Gannet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Keith how ever you look at it was a rubbish aeroplane, it certainly had a fair chance. Twenty four aircraft was not insignificant, allowing a lot of flying. About 20 DH Hornet F1 were built, proving successful enough to go onto other variants. I think the note on the Gannet tells us that more of an aeroplane was needed than the Seamew provided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Simmons Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Erfolg, I think the design was to the Specification of the time and being a two crewed aircraft with them sitting on top of the engine! It just did not work out and as you say, it was a rubbish aeroplane. The gannet having three crew members was better suited to the task. unlike the TSR2 which never had a chance, having read the book "TSR2 Britain's Lost Bomber" by Damien Burke, it looks a bit hyped up, being a nuclear bomber may be able to match the spec. With it's performance and is similar to the GR4 Tornado. It was before it's time. Maybe a project for Tim? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daithi O Buitigh Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 I was at the Short's air display when XE175 stalled into the runway. I remember that the nose just dropped hard at a couple of hundred feet altitude and went straight in. It was actually designed to a completely different spec to the Gannet - being intended for small escort carriers and STOL, low speed and endurance were the prime motives. In reality, helicopters became sufficiently developed to be used in the ASW role and the smaller carrier idea became redundant (along with the Seamew) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concorde Speedbird Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 How about a Bucker Jungmann Tim? These are my pics from Duxford yesterday, brilliant plane! Aerobatic performance, plenty of room for scale detail, not many kits or plans out there! CS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Adams Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Hi Tim, Sorry for being to wild with the Fairy Rotodyne,by any ones standard it would be a great acheivement to even make a safe and successfull model of this one flying as i have now seen!!......i guess i just thought that being unusual + british it had perfect recipe for you however maybe something like the Kit Fox hi wing mono plane could be a good practicle subject?...its a home build as the name suggests + would compliment your speed twin. How about a DH Chipmonk,or a Beaver to worthwhile aircraft that should be popular as well!! Anyway regardless of what is chosen im sure it will be fantastic,+ i,ll buy the mag or plan because the chosen aircraft Tim chooses will have bags of character even if its not the prettiest plane in the world...as proven with the Siebe l!! Kind Regards to all Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hooper Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Thanks Steve! The Chippie and the Beaver have all been done to death really. They're even available as ARTFs - goodness me...... How about the Corben Super Ace? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Very pretty but for degree of difficulty you need a Warren girder....... Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radge Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Posted by Tim Hooper on 10/09/2012 22:39:25: Thanks Steve! The Chippie and the Beaver have all been done to death really. They're even available as ARTFs - goodness me...... How about the Corben Super Ace? Oh yes ppppppplease! Gimme gimme gimme! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concorde Speedbird Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Posted by Tim Hooper on 10/09/2012 22:39:25: Thanks Steve! The Chippie and the Beaver have all been done to death really. They're even available as ARTFs - goodness me...... How about the Corben Super Ace? It's nice but something with more aerobatic performance would be more interesting to me at least. CS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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