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Posted by Erfolg on 03/09/2012 22:07:02:

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I doubt that TH next model will be a scaled up CS.

He said himself that his next design will probably be a scaled up Clean Sweep, in his post below the picture of the glider.

I looked at the original's plan, a two stroke would not be too hard but a four stroke (which is what I prefer) would probably need a new shorter and larger in diameter nose probably. But at a model at 47" span, there is not much point, electric is fine but a 60 inch one would be suited either way, it certainly is a lovely looking plane and I bet a bigger one would fly beautifully like the small one!

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Chris,

The Synergy does look very striking! The RC prototype looks to perform very well too.....

Just a point to ponder; the design may well be subject to various copyright and patents, so building a model (intended to be published in a magazine) may well invite a lawsuit. When I drew up the Speedtwin recently, I made sure I had the written permission of the owner of the project.

On a different tack, how about this one?

Spot the propeller......

tim

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Posted by Tim Hooper on 03/09/2012 22:45:57:

Chris,

The Synergy does look very striking! The RC prototype looks to perform very well too.....

Just a point to ponder; the design may well be subject to various copyright and patents, so building a model (intended to be published in a magazine) may well invite a lawsuit. When I drew up the Speedtwin recently, I made sure I had the written permission of the owner of the project.

Ah OK, well that's a shame but I understand. (They might quite like the publicity?)

Ah well, still looking forward to whatever you do decide upon.

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Hi Tim,

dont know whether it would be to complicated or not,but i would love to see a plan of the Fairy Rotodyne!....having said that if that is to o.t.t how about a nice classic british jet fighter of maybe a Gloster Javelin or Blackburn Buccaneer?...whatever the chosen aircraft will be im sure it would have bags of character being designed by Tim....the piston provost sounds good to Christian!....SA Twin Pioneer could be woth a look as wellsmiley

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There certainly are a number of second WW1 aircraft which are attractive, as mentioned the SPAD, some Neuiports, the Phalz. Unfortunately unless you like pig ugly aircraft, most British aircraft are essentially flying boxes.

There are many inter-war aircraft which are really attractive and interesting. Beechcraft 17, WACO SRE, Monocoupe, Lockheed Vega, most of the US air race aircraft.

Yet I suspect that Tim particularly favours British aircraft, so how about the Heston Racer, or DH Albatross?

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"...I'd love to have a bash at the Supermarine Seamew at some point in the future as well..."
 
 
 
 
.You do mean the SHORT Seamew I take it Tim . They were built just a few miles away from where I lived back then - in Belfast wink
 
One problem with them is the tail - there was no cut-out on the slab elevator for rudder movement (it had a 'twin' rudder - part above the elevator and part below - which part was used depended on whether there was up or down elevator)

Edited By Daithi O Buitigh on 06/09/2012 03:40:38

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Posted by Daithi O Buitigh on 06/09/2012 03:37:54:

.You do mean the SHORT Seamew I take it Tim . They were built just a few miles away from where I lived back then - in Belfast wink
One problem with them is the tail - there was no cut-out on the slab elevator for rudder movement (it had a 'twin' rudder - part above the elevator and part below - which part was used depended on whether there was up or down elevator)

Edited By Daithi O Buitigh on 06/09/2012 03:40:38

My mistake - apologies! blush

The Seamew has quite a few problems really. Mid wing (one piece or two?), long undercarriage, low thrustline, etc. Hmmmmm...........

tim

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The SRE you made looks really good, just a tad big for me. Although with a plan I wold re-scale down to the 40" span.

As for the Seamew, a shocking plane in service according to reports. I can imagine the same issues that adversely affected the full size , would be replicated in a model.

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It certainly had some service

An order was placed in February 1955 for 60 aircraft (split evenly between the FAA and RAF), with Seamew XA213 successfully completing carrier trials on HMS Bulwark in July and December 1955. Naval service flight trials with two Seamews were carried out with 700 Naval Air Squadron in November 1956, which included catapult trials and around 200 takeoffs and landings on HMS Warrior.

The RAF lost interest after four Mk 2s were built with three of them converted to AS1 standard; the fourth (XE175) was flown by S/L W. "Wally" J. Runciman for a series of sales tours in 1956 to Italy (March), Yugoslavia (April) and West Germany (May).

It seems to have had some service and been less than convincing. The full description is on Wikipedia

Edited By Erfolg on 07/09/2012 16:15:00

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Keith how ever you look at it was a rubbish aeroplane, it certainly had a fair chance.

Twenty four aircraft was not insignificant, allowing a lot of flying. About 20 DH Hornet F1 were built, proving successful enough to go onto other variants.

I think the note on the Gannet tells us that more of an aeroplane was needed than the Seamew provided.

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Erfolg, I think the design was to the Specification of the time and being a two crewed aircraft with them sitting on top of the engine! It just did not work out and as you say, it was a rubbish aeroplane. The gannet having three crew members was better suited to the task.

unlike the TSR2 which never had a chance, having read the book "TSR2 Britain's Lost Bomber" by Damien Burke, it looks a bit hyped up, being a nuclear bomber may be able to match the spec. With it's performance and is similar to the GR4 Tornado. It was before it's time. Maybe a project for Tim? smile p

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I was at the Short's air display when XE175 stalled into the runway. I remember that the nose just dropped hard at a couple of hundred feet altitude and went straight in.

It was actually designed to a completely different spec to the Gannet - being intended for small escort carriers and STOL, low speed and endurance were the prime motives. In reality, helicopters became sufficiently developed to be used in the ASW role and the smaller carrier idea became redundant (along with the Seamew)

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Hi Tim,

Sorry for being to wild with the Fairy Rotodyne,by any ones standard it would be a great acheivement to even make a safe and successfull model of this one flying as i have now seen!!......i guess i just thought that being unusual + british it had perfect recipe for youembarrassed

however maybe something like the Kit Fox hi wing mono plane could be a good practicle subject?...its a home build as the name suggests + would compliment your speed twin.

How about a DH Chipmonk,or a Beaver to worthwhile aircraft that should be popular as well!!

Anyway regardless of what is chosen im sure it will be fantastic,+ i,ll buy the mag or plan because the chosen aircraft Tim chooses will have bags of character even if its not the prettiest plane in the world...as proven with the Siebe l!!

Kind Regards to all Stevesmiley

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