kiwi g Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Corban super ace , nice .. but how about a real rare racer , the bugatti plane that was found in a barn .i dont have a pic .. I would build the super ace.. nice plane tim .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Poke Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Some suggestionsTim. Supermarine Spiteful, DH Hornet, Supermarine S.6B or any Schneider trophy plane, Arrow Active. Cheers Pokey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Bennett Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 what this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi g Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 thats it tony .. hk do a counter rotating motor set up ... nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Miller Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 What is that Tony? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Bennett Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 bugatti p110 prototype. built in 1940 2 engines behind the cockpit turning counter rotating props. v tail, swept forward wings. made from balsa/ wood laminate and covered with doped linnen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 How about a ***** *** ? ( censored by me - I think I will design that one myself! ) Well what about a Miles Attwood special? Edited By kc on 11/09/2012 15:21:39 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hooper Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Aaahh... the Bugatti is indeed beautiful. But it has been done several times before ( a clubmate has a plan in the Traplet range) and, to be honest, it doesn't quite do it for me! Chilton? tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hooper Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Posted by Danny Fenton on 10/09/2012 22:47:24: Very pretty but for degree of difficulty you need a Warren girder...... I know where this is going........ Indeed we were looking at the aforesaid girders last weekend! tim Edited By Tim Hooper on 11/09/2012 23:34:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 And there was me thinking you were ignoring me Seriously the Elf would make a smashing model at around 1/6 scale but I am only teasing, I think there is a plan for one published somewhere. Can't add it to my "to do" list Ton would disown me Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 A reasonably small version of the Gotha GO 145 ( photos in RCME October) would be a nice change from aTiger Moth, Jungmann etc. I reckon the bottom line is Tim will design whatever inspires him most. But what we need is a plan for an electric aerobatic model specially designed for Lipo & brushless, perhaps up to 48 inch span for a 3S Lipo. Something for everyday flying all year round in most weathers. Sort of Mach 20/ Spirit/ Bullet / Gangster 52 lite etc for electric. Should be a free pullout plan as nobody is going to pay 12.50 for a simple plan with ARTF at the current prices. Of course there are some existing plans but hardly any already designed for brushless& Lipo, so we would need to modify them quite a lot ( different motor mounting, maybe longer nose to avoid ballast etc ) Far nicer to have some expert do the design for us............ Next we need a plan for an equivalent to the electric foamy Wot4............ lets keep model building alive...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Looking at the pictures that Tim has posted, I think he is drawn to the light and small commercial aircraft. The racer type do not generally receive much favour, so I guess no Ikes, Busters and Gee Bees etc. I would suspect. I would guess is the same for most if not all WW" aircraft. Is it the same for the X series. Skyrocket types? What about the UK equivalent, the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinPot Pilot Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 How about a real challenge - the Mak 10 with its extending telescopic wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ton van Munsteren Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Danny, No problem my own "to do list" is getting bigger by the day and yes the ELF is already on there. Tim, Looks like we have the same taste so just go for a wingspan of 65" on the Corben or Chiltern, love them both and will save me time designing my own and if you need info on both just let me know. Love that Mikes Attwood special and planes like the Miss Los Angeles or look alike. To be honest I like all those race planes but specialy the GeeBee R2. Ton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 I would like to see an electric Gee Bee, of a span around 40 to 50" span. I have a 30" version but a little small, electric of course and made from Depron type material. It is a model which has not been done to death in viable electric scales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 A plan for the Chilton at 64 inch was published in RC Scale Aircraft Feb March 94 as a scale up of the 48 inch pullout plan in that issue. By the great David Boddington. So it should already be in MyHobbyStores plan service as a ..26 and a .40 glow model. Brian Peckham also did a Chilton at 1/5 scale for Radio Modeller July 86 plan RM310. A 60 inch Corben Super Ace was in RC Scale Aircraft Aug Sept 93 for a Laser.50 designer Dale Tattum. again should be MyHobbyStores plan, but the number was not quoted in either magazine. Both magazines carried a good 3 view and details of the fulll size. I suppose a specially designed electric plan for either would still be worthwhile even though they have alreay been modelled at that size. If the Miles Attwood is of interest I have a few more photos that I took. The plane is in the Chino museum about an hours drive east from Los Angeles. ( well it was there in 2009 ) Many other racing aircraft there too, plus some unusual Jap WW2 planes etc. Edited By kc on 13/09/2012 16:05:42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 I do think one of TH strengths (of many) is that he designs models which are not just electric, but of a size which are economically viable to the average modeller. Many IC designs are often to large to be viable as an everyday model. However there are a lot of IC models of subjects such as Tiger moths, Chiltens and so on, in every size you can think off. One of the strongest strenghts of electric poweris that twins are viable as flying models for the non expert flyer. Some aircraft such as the Bf 110 and Heinkel 219 would model great, having long noses, to aid the CG. British twins of the same period often have very short noses, such as the Beufighter. Go further back and there are a number of British twins that would be good to build, as well as having favourable proportions, such as Armstrong Whitley, Avro Manchester, HP Harrow and many more. I bet TH could make a viable Bellanca 28-92 for 3 electric motors. Edited By Erfolg on 13/09/2012 16:59:11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hooper Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Lots of food for thought here - thanks lads! Right, here's the agenda; First off, finish the BUSA Nieuport 28. I'm at the covering stage now, then it's a matter of fitting out the airframe, adding some salient details then flight testing. Say 3 weeks. Secondly, design, build and fly the up-scaled 60" Clean Sweep. Say 3 to 4 months. So really, we're looking at the new year before I get involved with any more projects. It all seems a long, long time away, doesn't it? tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Hmm, I liked the Wolfson. I am also pleased that your Nieuport is electric. So I guess that the Clean Sweep 60 or 3 will also be electric powered. I then thought why 60, is it the stock wood sizes? I also thought what would be different? All I could think is that it will possibly be a 2 part plug in wing, with either Carbon or aluminium Tube stub spars, just like many gliders. I guess you will not need as long a hatch? Other than that I guess just a little scaling up on wood sizes, and perhaps treatment (less block) of the underbelly near the motor to UC. Maybe move the tailplane servo into the fin, then maybe the elevator to the back. I guess an article on the economics and how to build big electrics is on the way? Still intrigued second guessing what is the next project! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Laughton Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Supermarine Type 224 the original Spitfire with cranked gull wing and fixed u/c? not sure if is has ever been modelled but I would be interested in a plan new or otherwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Jon Of course it has been done before, as a link in the chain, it could not be ignored. This site may have one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radge Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Hi Erfolg, Tim intimated that the Clean Sweep 60 is for IC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hooper Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Gents, To answer Erf questions; I'm all electric, so the bigger Sweep will also be designed for that form of power. A 5S pack will provide an easy 1000 watts - so a target weight of 5 - 6 lb looks to be in the ballpark. I may add a few details about converting to ic power, but to be honest, if you're capable of building an aeroplane from a plan, then you're perfectly able to drop in a firewall and motor mount all by your self! As for the size, well a chat with the editor confirms the thought that a 60" span will just about fit onto a freebie plan. Any bigger and you'll have to send off and pay for a separate plan. Makes sense, yes? If possible I'll steer away from any fancy wing joiners (carbon or ali) in the interests of simplicity and cost. Mind you should be interesting to work out how to join those forward-swept spars, won't it? tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Laughton Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Thanks Erfolg you are a true gentleman! I will be purchasing the plan as a possible winter build project- it looks intriguing! does anyone have any experience with building this or flying the model? Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Jon, The Supermarine 224plan article was in RC Scale Aircraft Feb/March 1994 ( same issue as the Chilton plan by David Boddington ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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