Erfolg Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 BarryIn the 70s Radio Modeller did a plan for the Whirlwind it was about 60 or so inch span. The model i saw had two 35s. It was deffinatly one of the most beutiful models i have seen, well made to. The CG was deffinatly an issue.The plane eventually flew really well, with enough lead in the nose. It did not last long as an engine problem resulted in it re kitting itself.The second I saw did pretty much the same, do not know who designed or if it was a kit. Talking to the ex owner, he had problems with the CG, further back than he wanted.I do hope it is selected, I think it could push itself to the head of the build schedule. I will, I quess be very rigourous about tail end weight. Ohh make it electric please!RegardsErfolg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Salomon Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 I reckon Tony has satisfied our need for a British twin engine fighter-bomber with his versions of the Mossie, now let's have something else................STUKA!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.A. Barry Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 YES Efolg, That was/is the only I.C plan .it was designed by , Gorden Whitehead , I built one and it flew like a dream, the plan said to hollow out the rear sheets fo balsa, forming the rear of the fuz, it was a very much a very "bulky" rear end if you didn't do as the plan said. I had great sucess with it, until a "black wire" battery problem, took it to many shows,..... 63" wing, 2 x 25 os in it , it looked great, as per any model in those days engine's were not as reliable as they are today , no on board glows assist,did not have the computers radio's, all of these things make it easier for "today's newcomers", but IF it wins, I am sure Tony has all of these things covered, THanks Barry. (ps CHRIS, best of luck, you'll need it with the Stuka) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Snyders Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 I would kike to add to the pick a plane plan. My choices are:1. Starduster Too . Scale Sport Bipalne 58 " wingspan .61-90 ic engine.2. Tiger Moth . Scale 60" wingspan 60 - 90 ic engine Thanks Len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 BarryI think the first model is a different design. It had a sheeted body, I understood it was designed by a Dave Cronan (I only remember that as Conan the Barbarian etc was very popular at the time) and Dave Hughes (seemed to be a technical writer as well as a modeller).Heavy back ends (sounds a bit Hmmmm) may only be something which I achieve with consistancy, but I know that having one is bad news.The model certainly seemed to fly well, as long as both motors worked as one. I hear what you say, I still would like to see an electric version, although I now remember that Galaxy do a 48" kit. But I have a stack of kits which I never get round to building).As for Stukas, they seem to fly very well as a model. Not fast, but not twitchy either (I think all the free flight/RC versions I have seen have cheated a little on the wing tip taper. I have even seen a Guillows version converted to rc electric flight (pre brushless and lipo) and it was fine if a little unscale like on speed (36" span I think).Erfolg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.A. Barry Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Graham Roberts, Thanks, as for the Rapide, there was one available, on the internet, somewhere, I just carn't remember where, but it's quite big , 80" 2 x 40s I think....or It might have been in one of our Aussie Mags, Anyone down here help, Regards Barry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nev Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 My top 3 would be1, Sea Fury2, Chipmunk3, Hurricane, I like it and haven't built one yet. The Whirlwind is ok but a bit of an ugly hound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Just had a thought.If the Whirlwind wins. Perhaps tony would consider a 2 wing design? One as the Whirlwind and the other as the Welkin.As I understand the Welkin to be a re-winged Whirlwind (with pressurisation).I do not ever remember seeing a Welkin modelled, as free flight, Control-line or RC?Only a thoughtErfolg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Needham Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Here are my choices Westland Lysander JU-87 Stuka Hawker Sea Fury All to the same scale as the spitfire and typhoon ... preferably i.c. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coley Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 My final three choices areJU 87DH MosquitoCatalinaAll I.C. Powered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Cooter Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Catalina. Westland Lysander. JU87 stuka. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Gow Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Here is my wishlistJU87 Westland lysander and the hurricane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Nijhuis Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Can I have a Vote Please David????? OK so :1 - Whirlwind.......some 40 years ago I lived in Yeovil, Somerset and the house we lived in overlooked the Westland factory. lovely aircraft... Not easy to design this one in the time scale though!2- Skyraider.....now this one is easy peasy to design.3- Hurricane ....Just makes a nice addition to the Lancaster and Spitfire I have already designed.Happy votingTony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike K 3 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Took almost no time at all for me: Hawker HurricaneVickers WellingtonFairey Gannet ( the Typhoon would have been number 2 but you just did it and number 4 would have been a Sunderland but you're doing that and I do really like the Lysander so make that number 5 for me) Mike K in the USA PS-- designed for electric would be a plus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.A. Barry Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 continuing on, The T Nijhuis 3000mt. Stakes..........................................."And Whirlwind on the rails at the 50 mt. post still in front, by a "short head" then comes Lysander, Chipmunk, Catalina, and Beaufighter side by side , this a tough race, I/2 a lenght behind is Stuka, and Hurricane "pushed up as well,Mossie and Skyraider are neck and neck , with Fury and Storch a little further back,well back in the feild is ME109,must need a trainer or it's heart's not in it."................................and that bloody "ducks back". B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.A. Barry Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 HEY "Whirly lovers" you can't ask much more than this, when even the "great man himself" wants to design one. THANKS for your support, Tony Nijhuis, So all of you who are in 2 minds about which one to vote for, take the "designers choice" and ......................VOTE .......ONE..... Whirlwind.....by Westland. Barry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Carey Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Hi to all My choices are preference in order. 1- Hawker Hurricane2- ME 1093- JU-87 StukaAs you may have noticed all the abve are single engined and more likely to be an achievable project with respect to experience from many of those wanting to have a go at plan building.RegardsRobert Carey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip White Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Hi there all! Looking through the results, it seems there is bit of a thing for a Hurricane (hehe), and why not?Lets see an electric twin! 1: DeHavilland Hornet2: Westland Whirlwind3: Bristol BeaufighterAll the above with glow/electric options, 50" wingspan and retracts. Any thoughts?Bring on the multis!! May the best plane win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Grocott Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 1. Vickers Varsity T1 or the Valleta2.Chipmunk T13. Auster AOP9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
country flier Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 The Whirlwind, Chipmunk and Catalina are my three choices. Harold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenneth gustavson Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Hi from across the POND. 1. Hawker Hurricane 2. DH Mosquito 3. Skyraider These are a few of many, that I like. Regards Kenny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Richardson Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 Hope the Whirly wins, it would be nice to have another twin designed by Tony. I would prefer glow but I am confident Tony can design it for either glow or electrickery. There is a full, and/or short kit avaiable for the Whirly from Kit cutter's INC for $350 US plus $67 US for the plans, equates to a little over 200 GBP I think, it is a little large at 108" span ( 2.745m for those of you who insist on Metric )so a plan for around 65"-72" would be a perfect everyday model.. Failing that lets have the Lysander.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenneth gustavson Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 Hi Tony, I would much prefer 4 to 5 foot span for easier transport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.A. Barry Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 Thanks Tony R. I did see about 6 mnths ago there were a couple of Guys in the U.S building one ( in a unnamed site), but I never saw the end result, did not know they had turned it into kit form, have you got there "web" address???. Yes it is a bit large at 108", and thanks for the Vote on the "Whirly" (fighter/bomber) Barry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Richards Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 Hi all,My votes go as follows :- to the beau for No 1, 60inch plus span for electrics or ic, with retracts and flapsNo 2 is the Whirlwind, same specs as aboveNo 3 is the Hurricane, again with similar specs to above. Real pity to see the Leopard Moth didn't make it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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