lightning 759 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Posted by Tony F on 21/06/2015 18:14:30: I'd vote for a TN Buccaneer , how about it Tony Tony Yes Please I,ll second that Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Adams Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Blackburn Buccaneer....and or a Hawker Siddley Harrier showing all mks VSTOL is just a dream for models,but oh how we can look forward to the future! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Nijhuis Posted June 24, 2015 Author Share Posted June 24, 2015 Well talk about demanding!!!!....now then, I did experiment with a Harrier mixing a pair of rotating fans for hover and forward thrust and quadcopter thrust props to 'gimble' the model in hover......not quite there yet but not beaten either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Pennington Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Keep up the good work Tony. Great hawk All the best Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ashby - Moderator Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Posted by Tripwire on 21/06/2015 16:16:02: I saw a copy of RCM&E today and it was stated therein that the plan should be included in either the August or September issue. I have marked my calendar accordingly. Earlier in the thread, someone encouraged TN to design a Folland Gnat. I've long wanted to build one of those - a great-looking aircraft. If TN could turn his talent to designing one, I would be a very happy man. Edited By Tripwire on 21/06/2015 16:16:52 Sept issue confirmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripwire Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I am looking forward to the September issue along with many more people. Not having flown any DF, are they intrinsically different to fly? Although i would guess it is the take of, or launch that is the biggest issue? At first sight the model appears to have a good amount of wing area relative to its weight. Some idea of the wing loading (oz ft^-2) would give some idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripwire Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I've not flown a EDF myself, although, funnily enough, I've got a foam BAe Hawk that will hopefully take to the air soon. I've not read any reports that they are particularly different or difficult to fly, but I'm sure many on the forum will be able to provide information re this. As for launching, this is often done by hand or with a bungee. Click on the link below for some videos of bungee launches. **LINK** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Nijhuis Posted July 11, 2015 Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 DF are not difficult to fly and compared to a prop driven model, they are smooth and precise with no torque effect and prop wash to worry about. Anyone trying DF for the first time may struggle to return back to a prop driven plane! Expo is important on the aileron and elevator as the high and lower speeds of the model means you need all you can get for landings (especially elevator) but the movements are likely to be too much at high speed. I suggest about 30-40% expo on the elevator on the plan, so that is a good starting point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripwire Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 If TN could design a Folland Gnat in Red Arrows' livery it would, along with his Hawk, make a nice set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hopkin Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Posted by Tripwire on 26/07/2015 06:11:00: If TN could design a Folland Gnat in Red Arrows' livery it would, along with his Hawk, make a nice set. Always surprises me there are not more Gnats around, such a pretty plane and many liveries to choose from too.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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leccyflyer Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Robbe also did a foamie EDF Gnat - there was one on eBay a little while back, but it was damaged, Lovely little aeroplanes. Looking forward to the Spetember issue and the long awaited BAe Hawk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Adams Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Tony, Would there be any chance of you possibly designing a Concorde one day in the future? We recently lost my mum quite suddenly and tragically on the 2nd of last month and at such a low age of just 56 years old. The Concorde has a special place in our hearts as a family and my mum also as my mums dad my grandad made parts for this plane among others at Vickers /BAC in Weybridge Surrey. Although I haven't built from any of your plans yet I have looked over a few and have found them to be quite straightforward and accurate to build from. I know it won't be just yet, but when you do have time eventually it would be great if it were the same size as the 49ins Vulcan. Many Thanks Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Nijhuis Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 soooo many subjects and so little time..... The Gnat and Concord maybe one for the future.....a few years ago I aquired a 30" span concord designed for static only....i put a 40 on the back end and it flew amazingly well.....big problem with concord it dutch rolled terribly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Purcha Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Evening Tony, I just finished reading the build article on the website, and I can't wait for the issue to reach my home in Canada. Anyway, exactly which model of 10 blade fan did you use from Hobbyking for these designs? Thanks Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Nijhuis Posted August 3, 2015 Author Share Posted August 3, 2015 The HobbyKing Ref is SKU9107000196....1950w on 6s ...around the $80 mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concorde Speedbird Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 If you did a Concorde, then I would explode in joy! The Hawk looks just right. CS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Purcha Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Posted by Tony Nijhuis on 03/08/2015 21:39:05: The HobbyKing Ref is SKU9107000196....1950w on 6s ...around the $80 mark Thanks very much Tony, Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripwire Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 I bought a copy of RCM&E today and have read the Hawk article. I presume the retract version could be bungee launched as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vecchio Austriaco Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Posted by Erfolg on 09/07/2015 11:46:04: I am looking forward to the September issue along with many more people. Not having flown any DF, are they intrinsically different to fly? Although i would guess it is the take of, or launch that is the biggest issue? Carl, The launch is a problem, I ruined my foamy EDF F9F Panther by trying to launch myself - ok it is repaired but not the same as it was... As long as the thing is speeding there is not much difference, when you fly a bit slower there is not much reaction from the control areas. but as you are always experimenting with unusual 2nd world war birds it shouldn't be a problem for you - as long as you find a person who is launching the thing. I am playing with the idea of trying this Tony Niijhuis model - would be nice from asphalt but our filed is grass. And of course there are a few other projects in the pipeline leaving alone the never ending house renovation... Projects in the pipeline: Tucano (RCME), Curare 60, Cygnet, Bobcat 40 II not to mention all the repairs.... so the hawk has to wait a bit... VA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Hackney 1 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I have a couple of edf models and I copied an idea from a mag. It involves setting in a single wheel just in front of the c of g . Not much of the wheel shows underneath, and it is not really visible in flight. No ground looping either, as ailerons effective almost from the start. This means that (depending on the design) the wheel can be as large as you can get in, and quite thin and lightweight. Mine is rog on fairly rough grass. Can't use flaps though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Cardona Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 another magnificent design from Tony, i like the size of this one, compact but not that small. maybe a bigger version for turbine power in the future? who knows. now i would love to see a Yak 3 or Me109 to accompany the mustang, spitfire, and the fw190. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy hill 2 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 What month did the plan come out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Purcha Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 It was in the September 2015 issue of the magazine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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