Pete B Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Posted by John Privett on 25/03/2016 11:01:05: Just a little clarification - although Gonzo mentioned a backup, from the context I think he's being prompted to create a recovery disk/USB stick. Indeed, John - I realised Gonzo meant a recovery stick but if I corrected everything I read on the forum, I'd probably be labelled a pedant..... I back up data to a separate HD. I've already got a recovery partition on the HDD but it does no harm to have a backup for the recovery, IYSWIM - but that's enough....... Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Could I back up to my Seagate external Drive? It seems an easy option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete B Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Yes, Erf - open the external drive and just drag, move or copy the files across. If you're feeling lucky, you can then delete them from your main drive Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Privett Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Indeed Pete - maybe I do seem pedantic at times, but there seemed to be two quite different things (backup and recovery) being discussed at the same time and a real risk of confusion for anybody who wasn't aware that they are two different things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 It is interesting, in that the drive backs up the photos, text and Excel files, once a month,by itself I have never bothered to back the windows files as i have had the discs in the past. It is only now i realise i do not have windows 10 other than downloaded files. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete B Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Ah, confusion, as predicted by JP, didn't take long to surface, did it, Erf? So you already have a backup procedure for your photos etc, in which case you are asking about a recovery package? I believe one can make a recovery folder on an external drive but it seemed so much easier and safer to put it on a USB key or DVD, which you use to boot the PC. How one can access the external drive when the PC is kaput is beyond me.... Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Yep, I get it Pete. To be honest I never thought about the operating system. In the past you need MS-Dos as the operating system, with Windows on top. I am guessing that Windows 10 is everything in one package? These days it seems I no longer care, as long as it works, how it works i could not care, I guess that is progress. Pretty much as my car, I know nothing about it. It took me by surprise that it has two turbo chargers, particularly when I was adamant it did not have one. That is other than an engineer from Garret saying, it will have one, believe me, that is where the performance comes from. I still was not convinced, I was after a bit of reading. Seems it is the same with my PC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew767 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Fingers crossed.....mine kicks off at 11.30 tonight...........i'll post in the morning if my laptop still works!! Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GONZO Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 A bit of feed back. Thought I'd gone over the top with my 32gb USB flash drive. But, having just started creating the recovery disk process I was suprised to be told by the computer that I need to use a USB stick with a minimum capacity of 19.6gb. As this is an automatic opperation I can only surmise that it is MS OS10 plus others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Jones 2 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Best and most reliable Window 10 backup I have found is .......Windows 7 !!! ...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil67 Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 The time is nigh and having dithered for too long a decision is required "to upgrade or not"?. Simple question for those who have taken the plunge. Yes it was a good decision or No regret the decision. I know there are many technical pros and cons but simply looking for a yes or no please if you can. Thanks Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete B Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I would say, yes, it is worth it - as sooner or later you'll not have any choice of a Windows operating system. By and large mine is fine - some good features but it's just the forced updates that rankle a bit and I'm very annoyed about the loss of Live Mail 2012. I'm on Mailbird now which is a poor substitute.... Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luther Oswalt Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Get an iMac! Leo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cotsford Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 From Win 7 - yes, it's better all round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken anderson. Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 thumbs up from me for win 10 ... ken Anderson...ne....1 IT/not dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy48 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted hughes Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I resisted Win 10 so strongly I installed Never10 in my PC and laptop! However, as both machines were destroyed in a fire, I had to buy a Win 10 laptop. I am now a convert, Win 10 is fine, and getting better the more I get familiar with it. My advice- up-grade but save your pics and docs to an external drive first, just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Ryan Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I'm an IT professional, I was a sys admin for 7 years and I'm currently a software developer. I work with Linux & Windows and I currently have between work and home windows 7, 8 and 10. My take on Windows is every second one seems good. XP - good, Vista - bad, 7 - good, 8 - bad, 10 - yep it's good. 10 is pretty much a straight upgrade of 7. You can unpin the annoying metro stuff and you can make it look every bit as much as 7. There's some extra overhead though with the telemetry stuff which is a total pain to try and disable and you still can't get all of it. My advice then - 1) Is your pc struggling a bit with windows 7? If so then don't upgrade. Windows 10 does have some optimisation but it's heavier all around 2) Do you have programs that you rely on heavily? If so it's probably not worth the risk. If all you do is browse the net, do some photo stuff and word processing then go for it ( after backing up all the important documents ) I've upgraded my home pc that I use for coding but my gaming rig with my years of accumulated programs and work is staying as 7. That said I'm far less likely to want to spend a weekend tinkering with a PC given my employment Final note - I upgraded my mother's laptop which had some pretty good specs. It still took > 6 hours. Plug it in ( both to power and via a lan cable ), set it going and leave it somewhere overnight. The worst thing you can do is power it off if you think it froze. If it's still doing nothing after 24 hours then you've a problem Edited By Pete B - Moderator on 25/07/2016 21:42:43 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin 216 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 I have two HP laptops, Put W10 on the oldest one when it became available and it works fine, much better that W8.1. I have had 4 attempts to get W10 to work on the newer laptop and have had to remove it each time- the machine grinds to a halt and the internet connection drops out frequently. I have decided not to upgrade this machine. The only solution is to try W10, remember you have 28 days grace from installation and can remove it, after that your stuck with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil67 Posted July 26, 2016 Author Share Posted July 26, 2016 Thanks everybody for your prompt responses. I have taken the plunge - fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanN Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 With the free upgrade about to expire I took the plunge yesterday evening on the household desktop pc. Fingers still crossed, but at first glance it appeared to go smoothly and all looks to be in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essjay Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 One interesting snippet of information that has come to my attention is that the Windows 10 Anniversary update (due on 2nd August) will make the use of Cortana compulsory, and you will not be able to remove or disable it. This means every search you perform on your PC's contents will be automatically sent to Microsoft http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/during-windows-10-anniversary-update-microsoft-will-make-cortana-mandatory-28-07-2016/ Big brother or what? Edited By Essjay on 29/07/2016 09:07:27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John F Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 You can easily hide Cortana and the search box in the taskbar so you don't need to use it Right click on the Cortana search box Select the 'Hidden' option Also, you don't have to sign in to Cortana, and if you stay signed out, none of the data sent back will be linked with your account – it will be anonymous You can also disable the feature permanently with a registry tweak Go to Start, type regedit and hit enter Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Search Right-click on Windows Search and select New > Dword (32-bit) Value Type AllowCortana Double-click on this and set its value to 0 to disable Cortana Edited By John F on 29/07/2016 09:35:03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil67 Posted August 3, 2016 Author Share Posted August 3, 2016 Jumped in an installed Windows 10. Hasn't gone well. Seemed ok but then noticed desktop keeps refreshing every few minutes albeit nothing is running other than default start programs set by the system. Haven't touched any settings. During apparent refresh all the icons on the bottom disappear and then re-appear a couple of seconds later but annoyingly if you are typing at this point, e.g an email, anything typed during the refresh doesn't appear as the cursor has disappeared. Happens with several programs, but particularly with system programs. Similarly, if I open control panel, it opens but then closes immediately, the net suggests many have experienced this issue. Therefore can't access any of the control panel features. Using a Dell Inspiron which is only a few years old. One web site suggested that Dell wasn't supporting Windows 10 on this laptop (any Dell guys out there). Will await Anniversary update and see if that helps, failing that, back to Windows 7. The constant refreshing is really annoying as you don't notice at first and keep typing only to find cursor has disappeared and your still a sentence behind!!!! Shame it looked quite good. Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John F Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 What's the spec of your Inspiron model? The list of tested models is here: http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/04/SLN297954#Inspiron-NB Edited By John F on 03/08/2016 23:11:25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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