Cuban8 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Posted by Tom Sharp 2 on 09/10/2017 02:42:16: and now for my next trick F35? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Fantastic achievement Tony, amazing! Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Jones Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Well done Tony,That's what I like about this hobby of ours designing and building radio-controlled models is full of challenges and problem solving it just goes to show what can be achieved with modern electronics and modern materials these daysSteve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Chaddock Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Well done Tony, very impressive. Depron is king! Next a single EDF with 'Pegasus' ducts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy oliver 2 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Any chance of this being available to buy in some form ? I would definitely be interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Meade Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Nijhuis Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 Thanks Guys, It has been a journey and I shall be summing it all up in the December issue of RCM&E...unfortunately the design is just too complicated to ever produce as a plan or kit.........hopefully I will be having some talks about an 'out of the box' ARTF version soon so I'll keep you posted. Out of interest and with all I have learnt to date, especially the software tuning and mastering transition , it can now be applied to a turbine version.....may be next week hey!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Chaddock Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Andy Yes I had seen that and it is a remarkable piece of 3D printing but as far as I can tell it is not yet in a 'flyable' form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff S Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 When I first worked for RR in 1965 the idea was to use lift engines (as per the Flying Bedstead, I suppose) and test were being carried out in Derby using an Alison engine but I wasn't involved. Of course all that was shelved once the merger with Bristol meant the Pegasus vectored thrust engine became available and the rest is history. Tony's fantastic project has resorted to the original idea, I suppose. It's a huge credit to his engineering skills as well as his determination in the face of early failures. Just shows that failures aren't failures if you learn from them and move on. Geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Meade Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Simon - the 3D printed version will be used to create moulds for a carbon version, from what I've seen. I think he has the "puffer" type stabilisation printed up and ready now too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Adams Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Hi Tony is there any chance that you could produce a plan for your Harrier design to fly in conventional layout,but with a few suggestions(based on your personal experiences) for people to have a go at the VSTOL idea themselves? It would be a great shame to confine to the history books a design that you've worked so hard on just because of the complexities you've encountered and overcome with success as its a great design even if most will only achieve conventional flight Kindest Regards Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Nijhuis Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 Hi Steve, It would be a shame not to progress the idea which is why the discussions have started for an ARTF version.... The idea of a conventional flying Harrier (not VTOL) plan very nearly made it into the RCME special this year but i crashed it on testing so there was no time to sort it out. hopefully next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Adams Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Fantastic Roll on the 2018 special! I would imagine the same principles could be applied to the Harriers replacement the F35 JSF. The latest Hawk is absolutely brilliant Tony and I thank you immensely for all of your plans that you have done so far...the Harrier though is something else though and if an F35 came into the fray one day that really would be some 'Next Level Sh..owmanship! That Pegasus fan is awesome to Andy Meade also is it functional and been tested in a model yet? Kindest Regards Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Meade Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Hi Steve - it is made by a chap I follow on facebook, it's coming along really well. I believe he has started some testing of the power train. There if a fully functioning F35 out there - VTOL and forward flight with a lovely printed exhaust : youtube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Vlashof Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Posted by Andy Meade on 09/10/2017 14:22:40: Like this? Thanks for like my scale pegasus My name is Joel, from the netherlands and i love to build Vtol jets. I started on the harrier a few weeks ago, so i would like to try to build the harrier as scale as possible, just like my other Project is the F-35B. please like the video and i will keep you guys posted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8Id9INpU_Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Vlashof Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Posted by Andy Meade on 12/10/2017 08:58:00: Hi Steve - it is made by a chap I follow on facebook, it's coming along really well. I believe he has started some testing of the power train. There if a fully functioning F35 out there - VTOL and forward flight with a lovely printed exhaust : youtube Thanks kind regards, Joel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Vlashof Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wliNyVBeczM kind regards Joel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Nijhuis Posted October 13, 2017 Author Share Posted October 13, 2017 Thanks Steve for your kind comments.......The F35 is some what different and dare i say it a little easier.....there are a number of modellers out there if you troll through youtube who have got the F35 hovering (including Melanie) and one guy in china has it hovering/flying so the challenge was albeit achieved for that model....the Harrier was always my dream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Vlashof Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Posted by Tony Nijhuis on 13/10/2017 19:18:59: Thanks Steve for your kind comments.......The F35 is some what different and dare i say it a little easier.....there are a number of modellers out there if you troll through youtube who have got the F35 hovering (including Melanie) and one guy in china has it hovering/flying so the challenge was albeit achieved for that model....the Harrier was always my dream Hi Tony, Agree, the F-35B is different but not more easy if you go scale like i did. the thrust weight ratio during transiton is hard to configure because the front edf has to work correctly combined the main edf (both 120mm) meanwhile the 3BSD swivels backwards. but it is awsome. I love youre video and i like to see youre harrier do it the inbound and outbound. idea to put some extra detail like landing gears to make your vid more Awsome? Joel ps Melanie is my wife:P but also builder for carbon fuselage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Vlashof Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Posted by Tony Nijhuis on 13/10/2017 19:18:59: Thanks Steve for your kind comments.......The F35 is some what different and dare i say it a little easier.....there are a number of modellers out there if you troll through youtube who have got the F35 hovering (including Melanie) and one guy in china has it hovering/flying so the challenge was albeit achieved for that model....the Harrier was always my dream Hi Tony, Agree, the F-35B is different but not more easy if you go scale like i did. the thrust weight ratio during transiton is hard to configure because the front edf has to work correctly combined the main edf (both 120mm) meanwhile the 3BSD swivels backwards. but it is awsome. I love youre video and i like to see youre harrier do it the inbound and outbound. idea to put some extra detail like landing gears to make your vid more Awsome? Joel ps Melanie is my wife:P but also builder for carbon fuselage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 All looking good you VTOL guys!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Vlashof Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5A5e0whG8I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Vlashof Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 happy with result Edited By Joel Vlashof on 15/10/2017 12:41:08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Nijhuis Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 Hi Joel Apologies for the misnaming.....I have watched your ongoing exploits with great interest on YouTube and really admire your achievement.....so well done The Pegasus looks great and i look forward to seeing the progression.....it would be great to have a truly operational scale harrier at some point in the future..... The video was taken of my Mk10 harrier, the Mk11 has retracts in and a little more detail so just waiting for some good weather and we'll video that to.....keep up the good work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guvnor Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Re: The 3D print Pegasus. Very nice model, but I can't see how you could possibly get equal thrust between the front and back nozzles bu simply blowing in from the front... And what about bleeding air off for roll/pitch/yaw control? My limited knowledge of Reynolds numbers would suggest that this one won't scale down easily. Would love to see this on a thrust rig with some efficiency numbers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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