Daren Graham - Cambria Funfighters Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 No issues from me. Don't worry. Just if we could do this I would be happy to pay a small fee. I'm just concious thatsome businesses pay to advertise and we should be respectful of this. I'm not a paying advertiser but I would be happy to subscribe to such a directory. Sorry if there was any confusion it was not intentional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuphedd Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 A good while I showed you some photos of what my mate is building " well here is an update ! Just enjoy ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuphedd Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 The heading of this Thread " trad building a disappearing Art " more or less? As the previous post showing unique design and build ability had no comment or critique , I would presume the answer is YES ! Shame But id anyone is out there Have a Happy Festive Holiday ! cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Some of us (quite a lot of us judjing by the forum) build because we like building, the act of creating something with our own hands. If we couldn't fly we would be building something else from basic materials or kits (NOT Plastic) Man has always made things. Sometimes from necessity but also for pleasure. Those who do not have the desire to make something are to be pitied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuban8 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I think the title of this thread might be a tad misleading. Don't forget, that before mass produced, cheap far eastern ARTFs, if you wanted to fly then you had to build whether you liked it or not (you could buy ready built second hand, of course). Building was viewed as an integral part of the modelling and learning to fly process. ARTFs swept all that away and got many people in the air for the first time with a model that was more or less guaranteed to fly - whether they continued in the hobby/sport depended on their on-going interest developing, and did not neccessarily depend on whether they'd built or assembled their model. Naturally, not crashing too often is a big help! With the exception of trainers, I notice that some ARTFs that might be considered as good second or third models and the more scale looking types, have become very much more expensive and therefore are encouraging people to build again, and look to having a model that is more individual in appearance. In the two clubs that I belong to, this seems to be the way things are going and hopefully, how the hobby will recover, although probably to nowhere near how things were in the past. Bring a kit or plan built model to the field and people want to know all the ins and outs of it, most ARTFs don't warrant a second glance unless they are really exceptional and expensive. There are many builders out there, both old hands and newcomers, who are producing fine models that are never seen by anyone other than their club mates (several my flying buddies build to a standard that is equal to anything that you'd see in scale comps, but do it simply for their own enjoyment). I'm glad that RCM&E still produces free plans (fewer odd-ball designs please ) and often covers building matters in quite some depth; the photography of many superb scale models taken from around the UK show circuit is inspiring and certainly pushes a not particularly gifted balsa basher like me, on to better things. Merry Christmas everyone, time to clear the building bench for next year. Edited By Cuban8 on 24/12/2017 11:08:25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 Posted by Pete Willbourn on 20/12/2017 14:48:25: A good while I showed you some photos of what my mate is building " well here is an update ! Just enjoy ! Hi Pete, TP certainly knows how to build a model! Do you ever hear from him these days? Happy Christmas CB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuphedd Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Hi Chris , ( and dad) Happy Seasonal Greetings These photos were attached to his Christmas Card , so the answer is YES !! Pete W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetenor Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I would love to build from kits but find most of them out of my price range. Even scratch building is very hard for me to do as even raw materials are expensive these days. I could buy more with just pocket money than I can these days on my pension. I have to buy just a little at a time.until I have enough to at least make a start on a model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin McIntosh Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Well said Cuban8, I agree entirely. If you do not build your own models you will not take much care of them, just go out and buy another when you crash them, have nothing to do over the winter and probably lose interest and take up fishing or golf etc. I really enjoy the building side of the hobby even more than the flying now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glyn44 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 around 100 members at my club. I think a max of 10 guys build. The rest buy and fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff 1959 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Those who do not have the desire to make something are to be pitied That's so true Peter, I pity people all the time lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Chaddock Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I appreciate I might be in a minority but I see no difference between a sheet of balsa and a sheet of Depron or similar sheet plastic foam. They both have to be cut up and glued together to create a structure. Conventional building but with a different material just like when balsa first appeared in competition in 1931! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff S Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 I agree, Simon. I much prefer balsa/ply as building materials but the magic you do with Depron is a sight to behold and well beyond my meagre talents. Geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Simon The point is that you are building, cutting parts out and assembling them. The material doesn't matter, it is the creative act that does. I have even designed and built a model in Correx, the stuff that estate agents make For Sale notices out of. It works and is totally indestructible. Cheap too!! I have done quite a lot of solid modelling in balsa and lime woods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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brokenenglish Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 It can't be disappearing that fast... This debate has been going on for decades... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Also, there are a lot of companies selling balsa, glues, accessories etc There are obviously enough builders to support them all, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ChrisB Posted December 25, 2017 Author Share Posted December 25, 2017 Posted by Pete Willbourn on 24/12/2017 16:34:39: Hi Chris , ( and dad) Happy Seasonal Greetings These photos were attached to his Christmas Card , so the answer is YES !! Pete W Its good to know he's still going strong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Percy, at the end of the day, a bit of orange box, and a bamboo stick will fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Notman Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 I do hope not,I was lucky enough many years ago to have a Grandad with just enough patience to teach me some basic building technics. Now I hope to continue building for as long as I can and to encourage others too. Just about to start this one! Cheers Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Scott Notman Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Cheers Percy! Who doesn't like building wings it's transporting them I don't like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Grant 1 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 My son must want me to continue traditional building as he has given me a 16" span kitset of a Spitfire. I do build my planes from plans and this Guillows kit is the first laser cutting I have handled. Pretty amazing. I have a 56"sportster to cover when things settle down after Christmas and also a Can Doo to fit the hardware into, so this model will be a bit of a change. I have built rubber models before but not quite this small. Will have to see if I can get some coloured tissue from one of the free flighters in our club. They would make up the majority of scratch builders in it - there is a strong Tomboy contingent with regular competitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Flyer Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I certainly enjoy building as much as flying but the truth is that many people just don’t have the time or facilities. I was lucky enough to have been instructed quite early on in basic building skills( house building! Rather than models) plus I have a small workshop . As a kid I started with Keil kraft control line planes and then started RC powerboats because 2 channel RC equipment was all I could afford in those days. Most boats I built were wooden but soon that changed to fibreglass hulls and wooden superstructure. All good RC boats are built and there are there is very little else apart from fully built models which are usually very mild in terms of performance and quality. I always wanted to fly rc planes and I got the bug again around 7 yrs ago after playing with my kids toy helicopters. After flying a number of small Helis I was keen to start planes and the bug re-started. ARTFs can be the “lazy way “ of flying if all people do is just slot them together, but they can also be very good when augmented, and I love modifying them to improve their performance . I still buy them and intend to keep doing so, as well as building as time for me is also limited. I definitely will still keep building but I am happy to do both building and ARTFs as long as the quality is high enough. By the way Peter I would like to thank you for your excellent books on building which have given me a lot of tips! Edited By Timothy Harris 1 on 27/12/2017 09:45:17 Edited By Timothy Harris 1 on 27/12/2017 09:45:50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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