ken anderson. Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 **LINK**.....fullsize engine problem...all ok.... ken Anderson...ne...1....fullsize deadstick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 I was there and watched it happen. Pretty nervous time for a minute there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuban8 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Yes, we were there as well and saw the incident. I noticed that the Gladiator's engine was running a bit rough with some popping and banging earlier on in the day. What was also very worrying was the Seafire's landing on its arrival at OW. It came in very slowly, more so than usual I thought, and landed very short just after the boundary hedge. Appeared that the cross-wind caught it and lifted the starboard wing, after which it got very messy resulting in a very heavy landing on the port undercarriage. I really thought the undercart was going to collapse. We watched them towing it off the strip after the show, so I'd guess that it'll need a good looking over. A good day, shame it was a bit on the chilly side when we lost the sun in the afternoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 it really did get nippy in the afternoon, I wish I had bought another jacket. I missed the arrival of the seafire as I was listening to the pilots chats by the scout and pup. I did notice its approach looked very slow and after it vanished from view the unmistakeable roar of the merlin was heard, I assume in an effort to straighten things out. A shame it didn't fly but if it took a whack like that then its probably best to get it looked at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Freeman 3 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Not sure what Merlin is in a Seafury? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Freeman 3 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 My Mistake, I see it was Seafire, is that new on the circuit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_B Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 I don't see or hear any evidence of a deadstick landing. Was it reported as such at the show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyP Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 I think you'll find it was a precautionary landing in an adjacent field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuban8 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 The Gladiator's landing was not dead stick, but clearly, the pilot was unhappy to continue around the circuit back to the main runway. Although partially obscured by trees, his approach to the adjacent emergency landing site looked quite normal and only required an immediate turn to the right out of formation to line up and set down.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken anderson. Posted June 5, 2017 Author Share Posted June 5, 2017 oops--ok sorry..the engine was still running(just)...maybe one of the mod's can change the title ect......... in case I get took to court for wrong description etc ......the aircraft landed in the next field intact-to be recovered and took back to its hangar...... ken Anderson...ne...1 wrong description/title dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 No need for apologies Ken - if the engine was incapable of providing enough (reliable) power to get in from where he was and the pilot elected to do a field landing because of it, that'll do as a dead stick for me! He won't pass his "A" on that flight though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken anderson. Posted June 5, 2017 Author Share Posted June 5, 2017 yes-I know martin...but they are ganging up on me.......i'll start a thread...when is a dead stick not a dead stick? .....(joking) ....he did well in my books to get it down ok...all credit to him...... could have been a lot of dead sticks.. ken Anderson...ne...1 all credit dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Walked away, machine, a precious machine, undamaged. Result But Ken, a little less mention of dead please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 from where I was stood it looked like an engine failure to me. if he thought he had the power I am sure he would have made it to the runway. But to prevent confusion lets call it an engine issue and subsequent forced landing just to be sure :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hargreaves - Moderator Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Posted by ken anderson. on 05/06/2017 16:09:15: oops--ok sorry..the engine was still running(just)...maybe one of the mod's can change the title ect......... in case I get took to court for wrong description etc ......the aircraft landed in the next field intact-to be recovered and took back to its hangar...... ken Anderson...ne...1 wrong description/title dept. Your wish is my command Ken..... I also capitalised your title..... Steve H ...PR6.....improved Grammar dept... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravo Delta Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 I left around the 5:00pm mark so did not see the incident , glad to see all was well. The Gladiator seemed ok to my untrained ear on its earlier flight as far as I could tell . I missed the last hour , did the Fury and the Bearcat make it to the show ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken anderson. Posted June 6, 2017 Author Share Posted June 6, 2017 thank you Steve..... keep things in order for the readers etc..... ken Anderson...ne...1 readers dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuban8 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 <img alt="" data-cke-saved-src="" />On the subject of the Seafire's landing discussed above, I came across this YouTube clip of the incident. From the camera's perspective it doesn't look so bad, but if you freeze-frame at 1.05, although the impact point is obscured you can see how very badly out of shape it all got. I viewed it from much further down the strip and that initial whack that the port u/c leg received really made me wince. Thankfully, nothing so serious as the crash in France. Edited By Cuban8 on 12/06/2017 08:07:38 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J D 8 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Would have had worse than that landing on a carrier deck. Edited By J D 8 on 12/06/2017 10:32:03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Looked a little nose high/slow to me during the approach and flare. Any regular Spit/Seafire watchers feel the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuban8 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Having made a hash of posting a picture of the Gladiator standing in the emergency field, I lost my original comments re the Seafire **LINK** The angle of the Seafire vid does make it look far less worse that it was, the actual point of impact of the port U/C is obscured by other aircraft. I was standing much further down the field and it raised quite a gasp from the spectators. Thankfully, no real damage done I believe. True, Seafires did take a beating on carrier landings and those that were badly wrecked were probably heaved over the side. No so now, with such a rare machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bran Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Was he passed on fixed wing or only on Helicopters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Posted by Martin Harris on 12/06/2017 12:52:22: Looked a little nose high/slow to me during the approach and flare. Any regular Spit/Seafire watchers feel the same? yup, that was the consensus on the day too. if it were a model it wouldnt have ended well either with an approach like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken anderson. Posted June 12, 2017 Author Share Posted June 12, 2017 he looked like he tried to float it in..long as he and the aircraft are ok, I suppose put it down to one of them things... ken Anderson... ne 1 AA..... armchair dept. Edited By ken anderson. on 12/06/2017 14:42:14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i12fly Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Must admit I was further up the field and couldn't see the final few feet because of parked planes but from where I was I thought he was well short and might come down on the hedge. I found it a scary moment but I guess the pilot felt worse. Gladiator was another scary moment. I thought he had landed afar to ensure no risk to the crowd. I feel this was a good example of true risk assessments -he had somewhere safe to land, well done Shuttleworth and the pilot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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