Dwain Dibley. Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 You seem to be repeating yourself a bit OT... D.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 Hi gents & thanks for your comments, @ Paul > well no, I haven’t decided yet. My intention was - and still is - to build up the centre section, present it to the fuselage and then - hopefully - decide the way to go with the mounting method. My problem now seems that the plan and the wooden bits I have are not ‘corresponding’. Which is obviously ‘very nice’ for a first balsa bashing… @ Onetenor > thank you, John… thank you… and thanks… That’s what I tried to explain, modellers are obviously nice & great people, but they seem to ‘leave their machine’ when referring to prop rotation. Can you imagine the Captain of the Mississippi Princess having a quick swim to check his port or starboard sides? Regarding the Merlin, I dunno really, but maybe one of the Knights could have a word with young Prince Arthur? … @ Dwain > no probs, just to be sure that I ‘got the message’ probably. Hakuna matata Chris BE - BRU / CTR Princess & Prince Control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetenor Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Sheer accident I had log in probs and this was result Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 Hakuna matata, John. It happens to the best IT-guys. These are the joys of web-rodeo, tinternet being the horse obviously... Cheers Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 Hi to all again, I would like to proceed with the wing center section now, but as there are a few ‘obscure’ things (to me), I asked for JVM’s assistance, but José is in Crete, GR now. So some patience needed, I guess. Let’s focus on other bits then. Since I first saw the early Baron plan - or the Svenson one which is the same - I had a strange apprehension regarding the tailskid. IMO, that straight dowel glued to that triangular balsa bit wasn’t going to be nominated for a Contest of Elegance, I’m afraid. Pencil & eraser at hand, the Belgian curves (those Froggies already stole the Belgian fries) went out of storage and let’s have some drawing… Then I suddenly remembered that the laminated vertical tailplane already had some nice curves and - of course - I still have that ‘ready to go’ ply core. The top part of the rudder became the chosen candidate. Even after soaking the strips for nearly 24 hours, I discovered that laminating 1,5mm birch ply isn’t really as easy as doing the same with 1,5mm balsa… A few hours later, with the assistance of the central heater, this is what resulted so far. Maybe I should start a small ‘cottage manufacture’? … Hakuna matata Chris BE - BRU / CTR Lamination Control Edited By McG 6969 on 21/03/2018 19:23:08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 A bit of metal as a bottom surface might be good after flight 50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C. Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Hi Chris I struggled with laminating plywood but had some success by steaming the strips over a kettle. They were more pliable when we'll steamed, word of warning though it gets very warm at the business end of a kettle good pair of gloves required . Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted March 22, 2018 Author Share Posted March 22, 2018 Thanks gents, I'll keep an eye at the skid, Don. But I guess it will also depend how much of those '50 flights' are going to end with a landing... Steaming would obviously help, Paul. But I don't even have a kettle in La Grotte. I only have an old electric oven and I doubt it would be a good idea to have some water boiling in there. Hakuna matata Chris BE - BRU / CTR Skid Control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted March 22, 2018 Author Share Posted March 22, 2018 Hello again, I decided to go on with the small bits till I get some info and feel ‘comfortable’ to start the wing center section. Still following Peter Miller’s Purple Plan, I guess. At the moment, the tail skid is getting some ‘prime time’ and the balsa bits were cut, adjusted and everything glued together. Next job was having a tube (snake outer) inserted for the bottom rigging wires and finally a dry fit to check the overall appearance. I still seem to think the laminated skid is an aesthetical improvement… The skid assembly will also become a test piece for some ‘brown paper’ covering as that will be a ‘first time’ one for me as well. Hakuna matata Chris BE - BRU / CTR Covering Control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I like that tail amid it's a vast improvement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 Thank you, Martian. That makes the two of us to qualify the bit to be an 'improvement. Hakuna matata Chris BE - BRU / CTR The Two Of Us Control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn K Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 That skid looks great Chris.. Nicely done. I would second adding an aluminium strip or perhaps a strip of piano wire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Surely it's worth a strip of gold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john stones 1 - Moderator Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Strip of brass plate...cheaper. Very nice work Chris, like that you don't follow plans rigidly and change where you feel it can be improved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 Thank you all, guys. ... a piece of metal, aluminium, piano wire, gold (?), brass... I guess I'm convinced now that I should do 'something' to the skid bottom. When she came home, I asked The LotH if I could use some of her Swarovski stones as they appear to be quite 'hard & solid'... The sudden move of her arms and eyes to the ceiling made be instantly believe this wasn't the best way to enjoy the next pre-summer holidays together. So, let's keep it 'cheap & light'. I project some scrap bit of a 6mm wide tie wrap and a drop of epoxy could fill the bill. Comments appreciated of course. Hakuna matata Chris BE - BRU / CTR Swarovski Control ps > good luck with your 'Pitts Specials', John... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 fix with little screws or small ali rivets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwain Dibley. Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Nice touch with the skid Chris, but as stated above, a wear bar needed to stop all that beautiful work disappearing into the runway. Keep up the Good Work Matey. D.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iris Vlieghe Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Dear MotH, I know you love to build but my kitchen tools are not things you should shape your plane with I know you feel no guilt My tupperwares, they dissapear in function of your needs Your head is with your airplane blog I don't know where, in Leeds? I can forgive from time to time that your creative mind finds usage for this stuff of mine I should spank your behind! But now you go too far my friend Swarovski's are a NO! And if you touch them anyways I wouldn't let it go... Thanks a lotH for your understanding... Iris BE - BRU/CTR Rightful Property Control Edited By Iris Vieghe on 24/03/2018 08:30:26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C. Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Hi Chris it looks as though plan A has crashed and burned so plan B will need to include getting back into the good books of LOTH . No further mention of swarofski is advisable unless it involves presents for Iris . Paul. Damage control dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trebor Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Use a strip of baked bean can with 2 small screws holding it on at the front, it will retain a bit of springyness at the back end as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iris Vlieghe Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Posted by Paul C. on 24/03/2018 10:02:05: Hi Chris it looks as though plan A has crashed and burned so plan B will need to include getting back into the good books of LOTH . No further mention of swarofski is advisable unless it involves presents for Iris . Paul. Damage control dept. Owww, now that's good advice Paul. I think you guys should go out and have a beer and a talk! Greetings from a sunny Belgium, Iris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Parker Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Hi Chris, Vicky is coming along very nicely indeed, your building skills are impressive especially your steamed laminating. I must try it one day. Regards Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 Hello everybody, I really got the message, Dear Iris. Anyhow your Swarovskis are safe as they should be too heavy anyway to use at the back end (of the plane). But please, gents. I beg you, no metal bits, screws, rivets or bean ‘stuff’ at Vicky’s poor tail. @ Paul > you’re totally right about getting back up in The LotH’s hit-parade. So first thing I did when coming home was to serve her a well balanced gin tonic… @ Robert > the 1,5mm ply strips were only soaked in water for 24 hours. It worked, but I believe Paul’s ‘steaming’ method would even be easier. Hakuna matata Chris BE - BRU / CTR Weight Control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 Sorry folks, but no real session today at La Grotte. The Melbourne stuff this morning combined with an exquisite sunny & nearly warm afternoon here in BE made me act like a mega lazy Southern European citizen... In addition, I got nominated to 'Honorary Foreman' by The LotH as a crew of painters is coming over tomorrow to her appartment and I have to take full responsibility for the re-decorating phase. No real building progress in sight unfortunately... Hakuna matata Chris BE - BRU / CTR Deco Control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 Hi again, Well, it seems that tomorrow will be another 'Foreman' duty day, but at least I managed to have a short building session at the end of today's afternoon. In fact, I finished a ‘long term’ job started quite early in Vicky’s build. Ages ago, when I was asking José for some tips, he advised me to fabricate a small jig to ‘form’ the cap strips for the bottom ribs as he had some problems of breakage trying to fold them even wetted. The Vicomte uses a Clark Y airfoil and indeed the Phillips entry is quite ‘short’ making the bottom curvature rather pronounced. And when the Master says… Nope, the ‘thingies’ aren’t miniature Langlauff-skis for Gaston… but the jig did a nice job. As I only could make two of them at the same time, I had just to put an end of two strips into water at the start of a building session, putting them in the jig before leaving and trying to remember the procedure for the following session... and Gaston was very helpful as I asked him - very nicely - to stay close to the jig at the time of my next visit... A ‘long term’ job indeed as I needed 28 of them, but then I made 34 strips instead. And I know why… This is what it would... should … could look like after completion. (pic courtesy of JVM) The second job was to cover the tail skid with brown paper as a test piece. More about that later as I discovered so many different methods for that type of covering that I very probably picked up the wrong one… Hakuna matata Chris BE - BRU / CTR Cap Strips Control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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