Danny Fenton Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Well Phil must have caught me in a moment of weakness, he has been on at me for years to join in with you mad lot, I mean you must be mad to throw your prized position of a ruddy great rock! Anyway, I am looking forward to this immensely, I will no doubt add my own twist to bits but am hoping to get lots of advice along the way. I have ummed and ahhhhed over a subject, but think, if nobody else has dibbed it, will go for this one: Martin suggested a splash of colour so that I can see it with my failing eyesight, and stand a chance of controlling it with joddery thumbs. Hopefully some RDS for the wing waggly bits. Alas I have a rather busy building board at the moment so wont be able to get cracking yet, but it will give plenty of time for you lot to figure out all the gotchas. Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn K Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Nice to see you here Danny. Puts a different aspect on flying and you dont have to worry about whether the undercarriage is aligned correctly No wing struts either. As usual, I'll be following along.. Martyn Edited By Martyn K on 06/11/2019 21:36:08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted November 6, 2019 Author Share Posted November 6, 2019 Thanks Martyn should be fun Though I am sure i will find lots to fret about Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Cooke Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Honoured to have you taking an active part in our PSSA Mass Build event Danny! Looking forward to seeing your Sabre develop! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Posted by Danny Fenton on 06/11/2019 21:50:59: Though I am sure i will find lots to fret about ... well, I guess we will be at least two of us then, Danny. RDS for the wing "wabbly bits"? ... they are originally TE stock, so I guess you might build them up instead? ... here we go then... Anyhow, subscribed already, young man. Cheers Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kettle 1 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Welcome to the Mass build Danny, I like your scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Meade Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Good grief, the Fentmeister is building one! Nice scheme Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Blackburn Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Like the colour scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 With all these Sabres........... I think we may need a bigger hill !!! Looking forward to seeing your solutions Danny. Ade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 Thanks chaps, the scheme was picked from that fab list Martin posted. It will indeed be fun Haven't seen the plan yet, to be honest don't even know the wingspan! Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG 6969 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Hi Danny, My wing plan is taped to the building board and the wingtips are both 18mm from the edge of the board. But then, I don't know the exact measures of my board... ... doesn't help much really, does it. But a gentle soul with the necessary knowledge will surely jump in. Cheers Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Barlow Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Drop tank too? Remember, magnets are your friends! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 Big help Chris...... NOT! Drop tank? maybe, as you say magnets is the obvious route, or drop them before landing? can somebody explain the competition element please? "The formal competition element will be run on whichever date has the best flying conditions" Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Garsden Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Honoured to have you in our company Danny. Will watch with interest. I am doing a fibreglass fuselage lost foam method, but that is a little too philistine for most methinks. Not balsa. If you do fly it with us, don't forget your flappy paddled hat, thin gloves and thermals. I have seen too many freeze to death first time out - eh Chris? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Cooke Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 can somebody explain the competition element please? "The formal competition element will be run on whichever date has the best flying conditions" Nothing too serious Danny - just a bit of static judging and demo of any novel scale features or deviations from the plan as drawn as we review the mdoels one by one throughout the morning session. We always arrange the models neatly in their own pit area - so when they're not being flown this allows those tasked with the judging to view all the models together and to compare and contrast throughout the day. I normally work with those involved in the design of the chosen model to agree winners in a few categories, typically; Best PSSA Newcomer Most Innovative Build Best Finished Model Prizes are modest of course, its all just a bit of fun! Bring some pictorial evidence of your chosen scheme or variant and you will put yourself in the good books with the judges Edited By Phil Cooke on 07/11/2019 19:42:42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 Lost foam sounds interesting Yes as it June and atop a windy rock I have already been looking into thermal wear. Maybe full blown ski wear Thanks Phil, i wasn't aware of the comp angle, adds a nice touch. I will be happy to land on the top rather than the bottom! Cheers Danny Edited By Danny Fenton on 07/11/2019 19:57:24 Edited By Danny Fenton on 07/11/2019 19:57:51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted November 8, 2019 Author Share Posted November 8, 2019 Well very impressed with the turnaround, only ordered the kit a couple of days ago and got a message suggesting it was on its way Looking forward to that moment you open a kit and see and smell freshly cut balsa. Hurry up postie! Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kettle 1 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 . ( your making laugh and smile ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 Well the postie delivered the goods and everything is very nicely packaged and labelled. Cant wait to get started. Looking at the plan, rudder and flaps are optional, are they worth the extra work when you are sloping? Are there real benefits? I can perhaps see the benefit of brakes?? I will replace most of the soft block with blue foam as I will be glassing the model. Cheers Danny Edited By Danny Fenton on 09/11/2019 12:38:29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Garsden Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 My view of flaps for a low wing PSS model Danny is that they can get caught on landing as you have no undercarriage (not personally of course ). Also PSS models unlike mouldies which need crow brakes don't usually land fast enough to need them. I often mix in spoilerons which can work well with some down elevator mixed in. Nav lights can look effective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 Thanks Peter, being a novice I don't know how much these models need to be slowed down before arrival. I think I will keep it simple..... those that know me may wonder, if that is indeed possible Thoughts on the rudder? Cheers Danny Edited By Danny Fenton on 09/11/2019 22:02:19 Edited By Danny Fenton on 09/11/2019 22:03:35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn K Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Agreed. Thanks Peter, that is useful to know. I'll drop the flaps (no pun intended) as well - K. I. S. S Martyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Barlow Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 I like having a rudder as I use it a lot in the landing phase to side slip to scrub off speed and to make flatter turns when I get off course too close to the ground. Having a rudder has also saved me when caught out either by mis judgement or rotor/turbulence when the model just wants to flip over faster than I can roll it back with just ailerons. Generally though, I don't use rudder much during normal flying. There's usually (sometimes) so much wind that bank & yank are all that's needed with so much speed and energy. I think for my Sabre I'll go with a rudder but not flaps, that big hole up front should slow it down enough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Gay Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Interesting discussion about flaps. I use them all the time on my slope models. If the lift dies I droop them a couple of mm to increase the wing camber and help get me back to the top of the hill. I also use them for CROW braking - very useful when you have to land in a restricted landing zone. As Peter says, they can be damaged if left down on landing, but it is easy to clean them away just before touchdown. I find spoilerons drop the model in quick whereas CROW allows me to land with almost zero forward momentum, if done properly. The German TA154 I flew on the Orme just hovered in vertically with full flap deployed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Fenton Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 Thanks Martin, now you have me pondering. So if I understand "crow" means flaps down and ailerons up? Forgive my ignorance Martin Cheers Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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