James Middleton Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 I joined this forum 3 years ago after taking "early-retirement"...it didn't work-out...I had to "go-back" to work part-time! NOW , I am REALLY retired. What's happened to "glow"?...I have plans for an "Agwagon" and a "Tripacer"...I (even) have a couple of "BNIB" Super-Tiger "G 51 rings" and a "BNIB" Saito "FA-120S"...all ready to go,...building. The "shops" are all gone. Even the "web" returns very few "sources". I am "old-school"...I started back in the 70's. I REALLY don't want to go electric! Am I the ONLY one?... <grrh> (Silly-old-sod, reminiscing?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 There are still a lot of model shops round SMC, Steve Webb. Pegasus Models to name but three. Lookin the back of RCM&E. Materials from SLEC,Balsa Cabin . I used to be a dedicated i.c fan but now old age has set in and I find that I can fly my similar designs with electric without lugging all the gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masher Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 What's happened is that IC flyers like you and I can get some real bargains on engines And then we get even better bargains on used IC models as people turn to electric. So best thing is to ignore the trends and enjoy the reduction in costs to fly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Chaddock Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 While it lasts and the regulations are only going to get tougher! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solly Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 I/C engines certainly aren't unavailable, Westonuk do a range if 2 and 4 stroke glo engines and diesels too. I fly 4strokes nowadays , Saitos and Lasers. Lasers are sought after and the makers keep running out of stock, so it's best to keep an eye on their website. Edited By Solly on 07/08/2020 12:18:33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Keith Miles 2 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 I share your pain as, no doubt, do others of a certain age and tradition! The numbers of engine manufacturers have certainly dwindled as has the choice of sizes but O.S. engines are also still going and provide possibly the widest range, even new O.S. two-strokes can be found on the shelves albeit still at a traditional premium price! My main concern was about future fuel availability and choice but even that doesn’t seem to be under any imminent threat with Model Technics and Optifuel seemingly leading the field and with each offering various mixes. The price will no doubt keep increasing, though, as a result of a gradually reducing market. That said, there’s always the option of going petrol (ironically), as some have done, with a ready built or a spark conversion but it’s not an option that I have any personal experience with. Criticism however, seems to be centred around transportation and general handling issues regarding the petrol itself and certainly not it’s much lower cost! And the IC versus Electric debate, in the RC world, encompasses many of the same issues regarding the latter’s use for powering public and private transport e.g. endurance, charging, up-front costs etc.! 😊 Edited By Keith Miles 2 on 10/08/2020 11:42:33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 One thing that has changed is the requirement to register with CAA , take a test and pay your 9 pounds before you fly an over 250gram model that is not control line. But it's dead simple and everyone has done it even the least computer literate member of my club ( with a little computer help from a friend) has passed the simple questionaire test. Just do it and put your reg letters on or inside hatch of your model. Edited By kc on 10/08/2020 12:02:19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Miles 2 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Posted by kc on 10/08/2020 12:01:01: Just do it and put your reg letters on or inside hatch of your model. Few, if any, IC models (the OP’s clear preference) have, or need, hatches that are “easily accessible without the use of tools”. That was/is one of the gripes regarding registration lettering. And why on the outside of the hatch? Are you exclusively an electric flyer by any chance? 😊 Edited By Keith Miles 2 on 10/08/2020 12:33:47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Yes, I am mostly electric these days - - but ic pilots could use the same hatch catches or magnets if they choose not to adulterate their model! I imagine that a scale fanatic would devise some scale panel or fitting that could be held on with magnets yet be removeable to reveal the reg letters to comply with the letter of this useless law. However there are other places to discuss this stupid law if you want, but this thread is just to inform a returnee of the need to do it in case he was not aware. Edited By kc on 10/08/2020 13:03:47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Posted by Barrie Lever on 07/08/2020 12:18:06: The World is your Oyster. Regards Barrie Well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Posted by kc on 10/08/2020 13:01:32: ic pilots could use the same hatch catches or magnets if they choose not to adulterate their model! Apologies for continuing the thread drift. Nylon thumbscrews hold wings on and require no tools to operate. Sold at modelfixings, of course Edited By Nigel R on 10/08/2020 13:10:50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Miles 2 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 kc, It was just a light hearted joke, hence the “smiley” icon. And, no, I have no wish to debate a ridiculous piece of legislation which I fail to see having any merit in practice. That boat sailed a while ago. Yes, the scale boys, in particular, irrespective of their skills, will be well chuffed! And yes, you were quite right to point out this legal nonsense to a returnee as I did to another returnee in another thread! On this issue, it would probably be safe to say that we are all on the same page! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Miles 2 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 (Posted by Nigel R on 10/08/2020 13:09:53: Posted by kc on 10/08/2020 13:01:32: ic pilots could use the same hatch catches or magnets if they choose not to adulterate their model! Apologies for continuing the thread drift. Nylon thumbscrews hold wings on and require no tools to operate. Sold at modelfixings, of course Edited By Nigel R on 10/08/2020 13:10:50 And my apologies for encouraging the drift but that might not be applicable to ALL models, or even desirable, hence the objections! And, of course, putting an ID on the items that caused all this furore hardly matters in that case as they’re not exactly pretty to look at to begin with nor is visual charm likely to have been a reason for buying or assembling one! And now I think about, the thread title might in fact suggest that further debate about the new regulations, the complaints that it has generated and the devices that brought it about would be entirely relevant to the question posed! Edited By Keith Miles 2 on 10/08/2020 14:04:16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 At first glance I thought the mention of thumbscrews was for the purpose of persuading the lawmakers to be sensible, but I see it's for a more mundane purpose. Good idea though--- -for wing fixing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Miles 2 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Ever had to remove the wings from a biplane....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel R Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Posted by kc on 10/08/2020 14:04:03: At first glance I thought the mention of thumbscrews was for the purpose of persuading the lawmakers to be sensible, well now that's an entirely more entertaining prospect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Miles 2 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Serious suggestion for our returnee, and others, for compliance with the new rules (as at least one fellow flyer has done) is to buy a Dymo labeller and, preferably perhaps, one that prints onto clear tape? Yes, more expense and no government refund! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Keith Miles 2 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Posted by Doc Marten on 10/08/2020 20:09:26: .....or just use masking tape and write the ID by hand, Thread drift ........Oh the irony! Again, debatable. I’m on the other side of the argument on this one as you noticed! 😊 And having read the requirements, masking tape might, indeed, comply as, whilst requiring that the ID be “secure” it is also recommended that it be removable should your ID change! I do enjoy a laugh and look forward to seeing the various permutations and interpretations! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paul Marsh Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 In the past few years, we have lost ASP, SC, Magnum,Thunder Tiger, Super Tigre, YS, to name a few, and JR Radio, Hitec (as in Transmitters), Multiplex. Even most OS Engines are not made anymore... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin b Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 My advice to anybody returning to the hobby (I did a few years ago), is to go to Specsavers and have them check your rose tinted spectacle prescription. Also, please be aware that this hobby will in future become more expensive (it is already starting), relatively speaking as our money starts to have less value and manufacturers costs (Worldwide) rise dramatically due to the massive effect of the current situation (which will take years to resolve). I am not pessimistic about all this as I see that people like ourselves with constructive interests will more than cope and you never know, there may be an increase in people learning skills, rather than how to push buttons (or play with a ball). kevinb Mini-rant over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis Watkins Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Agreed Kevin, we used to make our own, Dural flat chassis for 1/8th sca!e cars, centrifugal clutches on the lathe at school, vac former bodies 2 stroke motor from plans, radio control equipment from RCME project diagrams We used to build our own models too, perish the thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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