Craig Sargent 1 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Hello all, does anybody have a a copy of the precedent t180 they would be will to sell please. Just brought a kit of eBay but the plan is missing😔. I know this has been asked by others in the past but I thought it is worth a try🤞 Many thanks craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piers Bowlan Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Hi Craig, welcome to the forum. From what I have read elsewhere there was only a plan for the built up wing, not the fuselage. The rest of the build was covered by an instruction booklet. If you go to this thread and look at the post by IanR at the bottom of the page, he says he has the instructions and plan in .pdf. I suggest you PM him and ask if he could kindly email you the files. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Sargent 1 Posted January 31, 2021 Author Share Posted January 31, 2021 Thanks for your reply Piers 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Sargent 1 Posted January 31, 2021 Author Share Posted January 31, 2021 Many thanks to Piers, and IanR, plans now in hand. thanks guys 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Piers Bowlan Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 You are very welcome Craig, I am pleased Ian was able to help you out. As has been said elsewhere, a shame the T180 kit is not still in production. I think SLEC own the rights to all the Presedent kits and indeed the T240 is still available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Mulhair Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Hello, I have just acquired a rather dilapidated T180. What are the chances of getting a copy of the building instructions and wing plans? I have tried the link to IanR but it no longer works. Hope someone can help Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Collinson Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 I’ve a plan I think. If nobody comes up with a better plan, whether or not it comes together, PM me and I will dig out the Mancave. Don’t hold your breath for its flight capability but if you crave nostalgia, fine. I also have a spare cowl if I recall it. Might even have wing remnants too. Your call! BTC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyBird Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 9 hours ago, Dennis Mulhair said: I have just acquired a rather dilapidated T180. What are the chances of getting a copy of the building instructions and wing plans? I have tried the link to IanR but it no longer works. Here is the link for ianR Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Mulhair Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Thanks Steve, I have PM'd Ian and waiting for his reply. Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Brooks Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Hello everyone. Could anyone with experience of the Precedent T180 advise on a recommended CoG please? I have just aquired an example which will require a little recommissioning before I can get it back in the air but I don't know where the balance point should be. It looks as though it has a lifting tailplane section. Many thanks indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff S Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Probably 25% of the wing chord would be safe but you could always contact Slec and ask them what the CoG should be. It'll probably be the same as the T240 (adjusted for scale) which they still sell. I still have Slec's 1996 booklet/catalogue but, unfortunately, the CoG isn't given. Balsa prices are, though, and they're a revelation - 1/16" x 3"x 36" for 38p 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Brooks Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Thanks Geoff. 38p! Those were clearly the days. Current balsa prices are one of the reasons I now prefer to refurbish old airframes rather than build from scratch. The raw materials would have cost way more than the completed airframe second hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Freeman 3 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 I have checked the plans and the CG is not on the plans, I will find the manual and see what is listed as I was given a crashed T180 with all the documentation. Nice designs, I had 1 and a few T240's. Used to use the T240's for sweet drops and even flew one to Robbin Island! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Freeman 3 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Balance slightly nose down when ready to fly on the mainspar. Rudder as much as possible, ailerons 9 -12 mm and Elevator 6 - 9mm movement. Not much detail. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis Watkins Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 There you go Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Brooks Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Thanks ever so much, that is exactly the information I was after. Brilliant! I'm hoping to give this T180 a new lease of life and perhaps even use it as a club trainer and to offer some trial flights via the buddy box. It should be suitably stable and robust for this type of thing. It came with a lovely SC52FS engine which looks to be in good condition now I've unglued the carburettor. I doubt it will get as far as Robben Island however. That sounds like an interesting story? Got me thinking though......I regularly visit Gibraltar and I wonder if anyone has ever crossed the straight to Morocco by radio control? Perhaps the best chance of a transcontinental flight! Its only 8 miles so someone must have done it. How big a tank would I need for that distance............. Thanks again for the info, very much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Collinson Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 A 5-min tank plus a margin, assuming it flies at 40 mph. T 180 might be slower, as I recall. Interesting keeping up with it however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Brooks Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Yes indeed, would need to factor in the support vessel and avoid getting squashed by cargo ships etc. Getting the airframe there in the first place, permission to use airspace close to the airport. The more I think about it the actual flying is probably the easy part! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Freeman 3 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 We under estimate the speed that our aircraft fly, especially over longer distances. I found the old article on our flight and that should give more detail on the challenges of a flight like this.robbin Island.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RottenRow Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 15 hours ago, Bruce Collinson said: A 5-min tank plus a margin, assuming it flies at 40 mph. That would only get him a third of the way across, and that's assuming that there is no headwind, no height to be gained and lost and that the take-off and landing points are close to the coast. 40mph is 2/3 of a mile per minute; 8 miles would therefore take 12 minutes going in a straight line at 40mph. Perhaps you meant to write a 15 minute tank? I know this is just a discussion point, and not likely to be undertaken in reality. Brian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Collinson Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Thank you Brian. All I can say is that there are three types of aeromodellers; those who can count, and those who can't. BTC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Cracknell Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Don't you mean half the country can't read, half can't write and other third can't add up.....! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Brooks Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 11 hours ago, Chris Freeman 3 said: We under estimate the speed that our aircraft fly, especially over longer distances. I found the old article on our flight and that should give more detail on the challenges of a flight like this.robbin Island.pdf Thanks Chris, I enjoyed reading about this. Did you all manage to hold on to your breakfast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Freeman 3 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 I think we were too busy to be sick, I am normally not the best on a boat in the ocean, big or small, but never had any issues on this trip. The T240 really taught us a lot as we flew it from the most ridiculous areas in often unfavourable wind and still had it loaded with sweets and never had any issues with the aircraft but my nerves have taken a toll! The strange thing as well is this was all done with an ST 90 which most would consider as marginal for this size airframe and Futaba 3001 servos all round! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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