Ernie Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Bonjour our french forumites, I've searched haute and low in french modelshops for a decent clear gloss fuelproofer. Or maybe Mr Bricolage has a suitable concoption. Getting stuff from the UK seems to be becoming an ever increasing nightmare...Paint is certainly a non non merci ernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ovenden Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Alors mon ami, Even in the UK it's not easy to get a clear gloss fuelproofer that resists 10% nitro fuel now that TuffKote is no longer available. I too would love to know what is available in France that works effectively as a fuel proofer and stands the test of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Davis Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Bonjour mes gars! I have been using "3V3 Haute Protection Vernis," a kind of exterior varnish, in the tank bays and on the firewalls of my "competition" Barons for the last four years. I'm running OS and Thunder Tiger four-strokes in them on 10% nitro. So far it seems to be holding up. Bon chance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maurice northcott Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 (edited) Blimey, that's a narrow runway, thought you had loads of space in France? Edited October 12, 2021 by maurice northcott 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Ernie, I’m in 17350 Taillebourg, which I don’t think if far away from memory. I own a brand new pack of Rustins 2 pack, which is the same as Tufcote. I can give you a dib, on a pro rata rate. Collect and return basis. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Davis Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 46 minutes ago, maurice northcott said: Blimey, that's a narrow runway, thought you had loads of space in France? No, that's my front garden path! This is the runway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie Posted October 13, 2021 Author Share Posted October 13, 2021 Thanks all, and especially Don in Taillebourg. Yes Don I pass through often. maybe we could meet up for a coffee, or even a wee dram. I'm not sure what a 'dub' is, we don't have them in Scotland, or indeed Saintes. But thanks a zillion. I might need quite a few dubs, as its for an enormous KeilKraft falcon. I'm just about at the covering stage, so I don't need it just yet, I'll keep looking in France and let you know what I find ernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 A DIB is a quantity as needed. It’s not going anywhere, as it was for a new big hack, all glassed, stalled cos I can’t be bothered to pint it, and I’ve come to the brutal conclusion, it’s epoxy finished over the wood, looks ok, is fuel proof, so stick some fluorescent bits on and good enough in a hack. Always a dram in the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul De Tourtoulon Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 (edited) Easy, get yourself some 2 pack polyurethane car paint and varnish, I use mat, satin and brilliant, it will spray on your acrylic Tamiya paints and Humbrol enamels, without any damage and it is fuel proof against 98 octane petrol, jet fuel and 10% nitro Methanol. ps David Davis, is your picture around Marseilles way ?. Edited October 13, 2021 by Paul De Tourtoulon David Davis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Davis Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 3 hours ago, Paul De Tourtoulon said: ... ps David Davis, is your picture around Marseilles way ?. No Paul, I live in the extreme north of la Creuse. If I go to the supermarket I'm ln the Indre! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul De Tourtoulon Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 28 minutes ago, David Davis said: No Paul, I live in the extreme north of la Creuse. If I go to the supermarket I'm ln the Indre! Not the runway picture but the one with the two Barons with the mountain behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Davis Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 La Coupe Des Barons took place every year at Ste Marie d'Alloix which is between Grenoble and Chambery. That's where the picture was taken. We flew off the local rugby pitch! This year the competition was organised by the Club Jonage which is a suburb of Lyon. Next year it will revert to Ste Marie d'Alloix. If you want to enter La Coupe Des Barons you have to enter on 1st January. Your Baron must be a three channel model with a cowling, a pilot and a machine gun. There are also limits on engine size etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie Posted October 14, 2021 Author Share Posted October 14, 2021 Bonjour mes amis, and everyone else, OK, I'm getting there. Paul de Tourtoulon, I'm off to Feu Vert as soon as I finish this. David, i'll look for 3V3 next time in M Bricolage, and Don, I'll PM ,you about that wee dram Thanks all ernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hazell 1 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 19 hours ago, Paul De Tourtoulon said: Easy, get yourself some 2 pack polyurethane car paint and varnish, I use mat, satin and brilliant, it will spray on your acrylic Tamiya paints and Humbrol enamels, without any damage and it is fuel proof against 98 octane petrol, jet fuel and 10% nitro Methanol. ps David Davis, is your picture around Marseilles way ?. Is 2K paint not EXTREMELY dangerous and only to be used with an air fed mask and all sorts of filtration? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 52 minutes ago, David Hazell 1 said: Is 2K paint not EXTREMELY dangerous and only to be used with an air fed mask and all sorts of filtration? Yes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul De Tourtoulon Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Don't listen to me, I don't use a mask, I spray outside 'upwind' and never indoors, i do use a mask but that's with any paint ( brushed ) or sanding balsa indoors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 You are over the age of consent, your choice, your risk. But, if you read the safety sheets, a common starter is, “note you are dealing with industrial chemicals, not household paints”. I would always advise reading the safety sheets. They educate so a valid risk assessment can be done. Nice paints, I had a local spray shop do a couple of mine, tail end of a proper paid job. Very good. Me do it, no. No practice, skill, equipment, clean down facilities, or decontamination areas. My original profession, chemist, specialist in polymer technology. Just saying, a lot of my class at University died of funny cancers, lung thingies, stomach packing in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Stephenson Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Check out isocyanates which are the hardeners in two part polyurethane, they are extremely nasty to breath and lead permanent and irreversible damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymaz Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 For firewalls and tank bays, it’s 2 part epoxy for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie Posted October 15, 2021 Author Share Posted October 15, 2021 Mon Dieu, Full protective clothing to paint a wee aeroplane. Why can't we use electricity for the motor, or I hear there's some crazy guy who fills up with wine and old cheese ernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul De Tourtoulon Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I have sprayed, Polyester resin 'mixed' in the air with Fibreglass, Gelcoat, Epoxy resin with aluminium powder, then 'flocked' using static electricity inside 8.50metre boats, cleaned boat moulds with acetone and other toxic stuff ( I can't remember the name ) sprayed cars with cellulosic, polyurethane and trailers with the toxic lead stuff, a couple of years ago a 3.75m glider, fibre glassed with epoxy and then painted in 2 pack polyurethane and my last toy plane that I built was a Fokker Eindeker 2 metres span covered in Silk, cellulosic and 2 pack polyurethane paint, all without a mask, and I am still here so miracles do happen,,, ps,,, Wear a mask,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fry Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I hope that list is still in your brain, 10 years down the line. You are pushing your luck. Your post mentioned toy planes. Now if it was serious planes, you would be constrained by a host of regulations, ignored by you. If it’s just a toy plane, does that not apply? Same chemicals You might be just careful enough to be on the just safe area the job. I have no idea of your ability, or knowledge of risk, or constancy, but you ignore standard industry advice. As I have said, you are over the age of consent. Your decision, your risk. But, if you wish to advocate that risk, please refer the risk taker to the industry standard advice. As I have said, I have lost friends to these things. No proof, no payout, but careful people, constantly messing with organic chemicals, as a living. Don’t endanger your existence for a toy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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