Mowerman Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 I am not a helli man by any means (apart from Indoor ,toys') but watching flying like that fills me with admiration and envy for the degree of skill. Its only about fourty years ago that model hellicopters were thought to be impractical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Clarkson Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Reactions and coordination i can only dream of, doesn't get any better than that. Although, i also agree, my mind switches off after about a minute. The only way i can describe it is that when i go to a real Airshow i want/love it when the aircraft do something different that hasn't been seen before, but with models....i want them to look and behave like real life. I have never seen a real Heli do that or come close to it!!!!!!! And to be honest, i would like to see that in person as probaby looks even more mesmerising!! Edited By Ross Clarkson on 30/12/2009 11:30:16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 I've just watched both videos again & again because I simply don't comprehend how (as someone put it ) He seems to have the reflexes of a house- hold fly You /WE/ Humans Can't do what he is doing on that scale & I'm sure most of you all agree ? BUT we accept it as being genuine . Now then!!! You photographers out there ! Your opinions please .(& I have just a little experience -albeit out of date ) Have you happened to notice how quickly the moviemaker changes direction etc ?? Just as if he had the camera on the pilots eyes.Whoever took the shoots had the same sort of reflexes as the pilot .Hmmmm!! I wonder ? -or is it an extremely almost convincing example of high speed/ low speed photographic ( even digital maybe) techniques . I really don't think that any human flier can come so close to the ground that often ,so quickly . I only do the indoor Heli thing for fun. What do you expert guys REALLY think of that that we've see on screen ? G-UMPY sceptic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Clarkson Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 It is definitely genuine Myron. I used to frequent a well known RC Heli forum and there were plenty of these vids flying around. Im convinced anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Wheww! OK I believe you Ross . I've just seen other videos too . I've changed my mind G-UMPY Jealous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic. P. Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Yep, that's some pretty awesome flying and amazing reactions!! Many, many years of practice and a large bank account for the inevitable repairs. Check out Alan Szabo flying a Trex 600 ESP electric heli, similar moves, different style. Edited By Vic. P. on 01/01/2010 23:29:57Edited By Vic. P. on 01/01/2010 23:30:29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Privett Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 As Vic suggests, look at some of Alan and Danny Szabo's videos. Whilst I do fly helis, I don't get anywhere remotely close to any of that. However I think there's a bit of over-emphasis on reactions in this thread. I believe it's more about judgement and timing. The heli doesn't suddenly come close to the ground and need reacting to in the way that a sprinter would react to suddenly hearing the starting pistol. The heli is heading steadily and fairly predictably towards the ground - often quite quickly I'll admit! It's down to timing and judgement as to when to initiate the change of direction that avoids creating a smouldering heap of wreckage. Oh, and as Vic said, a large bank account to pay for spares undoubtedly helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Harris - Moderator Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Hugely impressive but my eyes started glazing over at about 1 1/2 minutes in. I feel this is a specialist subject with few real links to traditional aeromodelling other than the medium it's performed in. A bit like golf is to me, as a non-participant, I can't see anything in watching televised coverage but I know that enthusiasts are glued to the screen when the Open is on. I do enjoy the 3D heli spots at the shows, though. Gives an opportunity to get a drink or an ice-cream or use the "facilities" without missing anything! Sorry, helifans but that's just my personal view although I know it's shared by most of my clubmates - I expect you feel the same about "planks"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul@scc Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 I was into heli's a few years ago and loved that 3D stuff. Anyhow a company called Readyheli.com run a competition for flyers to show there skills.This was my entry and I got 2nd place and $300 video Edited By paul@scc on 02/01/2010 11:30:29Edited By paul@scc on 02/01/2010 11:31:50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Like it Paul, Although the choreography looked a little wooden Edited By Ian W on 02/01/2010 13:45:59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Privett Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Excellent Paul. I remember seeing that video some time ago. Glad you got rewarded for it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul@scc Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Cheers guys.The $300 was not cash but gear from the shop. At that time I was moving over to planes and John at Readyheli only dealt in helis. Fair play to him he ordered what I wanted from his suppliers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldon Holy Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Wow..... Bert Krammererererererer(er) can really fly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyS Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 The chap must do nothing except fly his model heli !!!! I dread to think what he's spent on parts and helis just getting to this stage. Do you think he can hold it still or that the aerobatics are just a way of covering up for the fact that he can't hover it yet..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David E Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Lol & Wow! I can't quite take 3D heli flying seriously - it's incredible and obviously takes a huge amount of skill, but I can't help laughing when I see it as it looks a bit... well... silly! The first two vids made me think of a giant dragonfly being shaken around in the jaws of a very large, very angry, but invisible dog! I agree with the comments that it doesn't really look like "flying". And before watching this, I thought I was doing quite well managing to hover my Honey Bee FP in my 6' x 7' kitchen this evening on second flying session with it! I hope that my heli co-ordination will someday be 1/50th as good as that guy, but I think I'd prefer scale heli flying. Perhaps this explains why I've never been a massive fan of the look of pod and boom helis, preferring scale models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James40 Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Posted by Timbo - Administrator on 28/12/2009 14:25:13:Unbelievable huh Yes, in fact so unbelieveable that I don't think it's real. It looks more like some very good video editing rather than good flying. Unless of course they changed the laws of physics since I learnt about theory of flight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnesyboy Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Not a chance is the vid fake, do a youtube for him or Alan Szabu then add "stick movements" to your search and you will see there isnt 30000 odd people making "fake" vids, its all about timing and reactions getting the cyclic right and the pitch from + to 0 to - at the right time, not easy i can asure you Edited By Barnesyboy on 11/03/2010 13:11:06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vecchio Austriaco Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 James, no need to fake a video - there are some good guys around. For sure my video is not so professional and Luca is not world champion but have a look: This is what I filmed 3 weeks ago at our airfield VA By the way Luca Invernizzi is official Novarossi pilot and for sure somehere within the first 30 3d-heli pilots worldwide. Edited By Vecchio Austriaco on 11/03/2010 23:05:34Edited By Vecchio Austriaco on 11/03/2010 23:15:32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klippy Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 Yup Tim, certainly looks like they changed the laws of Physics while you weren't looking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlfk Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 I'm amused to find so many people who think the video is fake - it's impressive, but not unusual. My personal view is that some things are more fun to do than to watch. And of course, different things float different people's boats anyway. Also, as regards how people do it... Most of it is probably down to stereotyped , 'automatic' movements rather than reaction times. The pilot knows the stick movements to do a piroflip, or whatever, and the only 'reactions' are slight adjustments to altitude or orientation between maneuvers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul@scc Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Posted by Vecchio Austriaco on 11/03/2010 23:03:16:James, no need to fake a video - there are some good guys around. For sure my video is not so professional and Luca is not world champion but have a look: This is what I filmed 3 weeks ago at our airfield VA By the way Luca Invernizzi is official Novarossi pilot and for sure somehere within the first 30 3d-heli pilots worldwide. Edited By Vecchio Austriaco on 11/03/2010 23:05:34Edited By Vecchio Austriaco on 11/03/2010 23:15:32 Bravo Luca and nice camera work Vecchio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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