bouncebounce crunch Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Peter Is that your family crest/ initials on the side of this one? she would make into a nice scale model too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted March 31, 2013 Author Share Posted March 31, 2013 That is a Tempete. It does have a lot going for it. Must look at my 3-views. Not my family crest though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Bertram Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 One of my favourites too. Lovely photo, must have a look at their website. The Nord 854 and 858 series are pretty too Edited By Bob Bertram on 31/03/2013 09:33:47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouncebounce crunch Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I have been googling about and there appears to be some great livery for the Tempete so a bit of artistic licence for your own scheme wouldn't be out of place either. A sliding canopy could be a prized feature for the builders and scale undercarriage shouldn't be too difficult for us novices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Hi Peter, I've always liked the Feisler Storch, or even better, the French version the Morane Saulnier Criquet, which has an exposed Pratt and Whitney radial engine (à la Stearman) I suspect the big greenhouse would be a bit of a challenge ernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share Posted April 3, 2013 Well. I have just started drawing up the model. Took a long time and a lot of head scratching. and playing with sizes etc. etc. The model that I have chosen is the YAK 18 Max. The early one with the blister cowl. Scale about 1/7th, span 59.5" Power 48 to 52 sour stroke. I have superb 1/10th scale drawings of the aircraft but what finally tipped the balance was that back in the 70s I designed a control line stunter based on the the aircraft. Checking my C/L plan I found that the fuselage was almost perfect scale. I had designed it for scale but the editor of the day wanted a stunter. This all means that I have most of the construction designed. (Told you I was lazy) Another factor was that I obtained a plastic kit with an all red colour scheme which is a brighter colour than most of them, Now I wonder what the reaction is going to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plummet Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Wonderful. I have a very soft spot for Yaks. The 18 looks very similar to the Yak 52. **LINK** When my wife retired her leaving present was an aerobatic flight in the aircraft in the above link. I can predict that I may be under pressure to build one. Plummet Edited By Plummet on 03/04/2013 19:15:24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share Posted April 3, 2013 Lucky wife!! This is the version that I am doing but easily converted. Different cowl, wing tips, U/C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 The Yak 18 looks very similar to the Yak 50 but the 50 seems to be smaller. The Yak 52 also smaller. However all the books seem to differ as to the span of all these planes so maybe some had clipped wings. Some drawings make the single seat canopy look further back than others. The blister cowl looks nice but difficult to make. Any of these planes should make an excellent model & I look forward to seeing Peter's plan published soon. There are lots of Yaks based at North Weald and that's the venue for Wings & Wheels model show in a few months. Edited By kc on 03/04/2013 19:46:32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share Posted April 3, 2013 The cowl is not that hard to make. Just going to take lots of 1/2" sheet, most of which will end up on the floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I had not realised until Peter's comments about Henry Haffke, that he was the designer of the Coverite Kits of the Gee Bees. I have one a Model D. Have you considered a Zeta for the future Peter, not a air racer, yet has presence, and shares many of the look and feel features of some of your own designs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted April 4, 2013 Author Share Posted April 4, 2013 The Model Z is a racing aircraft. the one that killed Lowell Bayles. Actually I prefer the earlier sportsters like the Model X, C, D and E.. They have more wing area and would eb much more flyable models. I keep looking at those aircraft. One day perhaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Peter This is the aircraft I was thinking off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myron Beaumont Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Peter Your method of construction is virtually the same throughout your range of designs .Keep using it but maybe embellish it on something else not done yet (don't know quite what -but maybe even a well tested and proven design-may I say an Edge or an Extra -or something with a thicker symetrical wing section even ).That way we will know it is another of YOUR designs & it will fly well .I sound like a salesman -but you do have your own well respected "brand" so to speak .In other words ,convert the ARTFers to building your style .Simple but effective Myron Edited By Myron Beaumont on 04/04/2013 18:44:36 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted April 4, 2013 Author Share Posted April 4, 2013 Posted by Erfolg on 04/04/2013 18:30:09: Peter This is the aircraft I was thinking off. THat is interesting. Amazingly it is not even mentioned in Haffke'sbook, let alone a picture or 3-view. Myron. I wanted something a bit different to to build. Even my Yak is very much standard Miller inder the stringers. But at least the stringer and cowl will provide a bit more interest. Add in the flap under the centre section and a bit of cockpit detail and it has sparked my inspiration. I have anpother aircraft that I would live to build but the colour scheme is so diabolical (or expensive) that I can't bring myself to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erfolg Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 The Zeta appears to be a one of, a bit like the biplane. It was a Peter Miller design (ok Pete Miller) used as a runabout for many years, before being found in a barn, recovered and put in a Museum, in Springfield, MA. You have to do it! I can see the heading, "Peter Miller builds a great Pete Miller design" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted April 5, 2013 Author Share Posted April 5, 2013 There are a few like that, that I must do. Miller "Little Gem" racer for example! The Zeta does have a lot going for it I must admit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piers Bowlan Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Peter, I know you said a couple of pages back that Fighters are out as their wing loadings 'tend to be rather high' but have you considered the Polikarkov I-16 'Rata' ? Here. The wings have quite a good area albeit low aspect ratio, even if the fuz is huge (fat) - although no more than a Gee Bee racer. On the positive side despite it's short tail moment it does have a very large tail plane to compensate! The huge cowl would easily swallow your 52 sized 4S no problem if the model was built with a 54in wing span. That just leaves the retracts, but you could always go for fixed gear and call it fantasy scale. I am no purist! If you started it today Peter you would finish it in a couple of weeks which would save me the trouble of trying to produce one myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruprect Spode Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 I can't say I'm not a little bit disappointed with Peter's choice,(sort of a Russian Harvard) however I'm sure the novelty/challenge of constructing the Yak's cowl will be an interesting distraction and I do have a spare pair of retracts needing a home. The thing I enjoy the most about Peter's discussions is the amazing variety of suggestions that come forth from all other contributors on the forum. They certainly whet my appetite for building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted April 5, 2013 Author Share Posted April 5, 2013 Sorry but the Polikarkpov just does not excite me to be polite. Ruprect. The retracts go backwards with the U/C legs outside the wing which will present you with problems. I gave up on that. One aircraft that I would like to do is the Aviat 110 Special. I suspect that the cut vinyl colour scheme would cost a fortune and there is only one colour scheme. I will NOT accept a non scale colour scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fats Flyer Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Peter,The Aviat 110 Special looks really nice.That would be perfect for around a 1/5 scale . Are you going to proceed with this as a plan......i hope so,it will appeal to quite a few . F F Edited By Fats Flyer on 05/04/2013 21:26:13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin b Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Posted by Peter Miller on 05/04/2013 18:23:21: Sorry but the Polikarkpov just does not excite me to be polite. Ruprect. The retracts go backwards with the U/C legs outside the wing which will present you with problems. I gave up on that. One aircraft that I would like to do is the Aviat 110 Special. I suspect that the cut vinyl colour scheme would cost a fortune and there is only one colour scheme. I will NOT accept a non scale colour scheme. How about this one then Peter ? **LINK** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted April 5, 2013 Author Share Posted April 5, 2013 The original colour scheme would be very expensive as I said. I don't think the one on the link was ever used but I might be tempted to stretch a point. Could certainly be a possible future subject at 1/5th s cale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Leighfield Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 It's got a small area tailplane as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 And a long moment arm and the CG could be well forward. Never know, I could even prefer it to the Yak. although I will finish the Yak drawing anyway while I think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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