john melia 1 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 where are all the traditional build kits , that aren't vintage , i'm looking for something i can progress to after getting back upto speed with my ARTF trainer , which is good to get you in the air quick , but back when i was involved in aeromodelling (a long time ago i may add ) i got just as much enjoyment building ,as i did flying . I've done an initial google search , but other than the old super 60 type models and cub type models can't really find much , i don't want a bi-plane (i have a puppeteer ) and i dont want a flying shoe box (i have the artf sedona that fits the bill) i would like something over 60 inches either shoulder wing or low wing , and ultimately a spitfire , i don't know how hard the spitfire is to fly , but i would love to eventually progress to building and flying one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fun Flyer Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 If you like building and you've done ARTF, then the next step to your Spitfire is a 4Ch Super60. Fitted with a Four Stroke engine it wil provide may happy flying hours. Its also a much quicker build than you may think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon B Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Fun Flyer, if you read his post he mentions the super 60 and specifically says he doesn't want vintage. John, head over to Pegasus, as they do the wonderful Sig Models kits. Also worth checking out Top Flite kits and also Pegasus do their own range. Might also be worth looking through MyHobbyStore, as they do the old Galaxy Models kits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down Under Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 What about a scratch build? There is a plethora of plans between the RCME plan index, the Outerzone website, and Model Airplane plans site (US site). Parts are cheap between Hobby King or your LHS. The only real price part is the covering, but should still come in under the cost of an ARTF. And the satisification of flying your own scratch build is second to none! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymaz Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 There are 1000's of plans available. Do you have a firm that could scan the plan and then laser cut the main parts for you These people? Or here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Miller Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Go and search Pegasus Models in Norwich. They have a good range of kits including the SIg range, Balsa USA etc. SLEC also do several really good kits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Green Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Lets not leave out DB Sport and scale. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cymaz Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I have used Falcon Aviation twice now. Richard knows his stuff and will help all he can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piers Bowlan Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 DB Sport and Scale would get my vote too. Everything fits, never any issues with wood quality and fittings that are fit for purpose, also very good value. Many build blogs on the net and if all else fails Eddie or Judy will be happy to help if you run into a snag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Davis Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Endorse all of the above. Of the American kits consider the Astro Hog which would be ideal for you Irvine 61. This is available from Sig or the British manufactuer Flair. The Four Star range are well thought of. The Four Star 60 would suit your Irvine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Green Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I have a bild blog of Astro Hog build if you want to see whats involved. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john melia 1 Posted April 14, 2013 Author Share Posted April 14, 2013 again may i say a big thank you for all your useful information , these forums are brilliant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john melia 1 Posted May 12, 2013 Author Share Posted May 12, 2013 anyone got any info on this kit **LINK** i like it and have an irvine .60 waiting for a home , but , would this model be suitable for me , coming straight from a trainer 4 channel ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cotsford Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 It should be fast and relatively easy to fly, but it will go exactly where you point it and keep on going until you point it somewhere else so a moments lapse will not end well. I would suggest something a little more forgiving as a second model, maybe an Acrowot or Four Star 60? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john melia 1 Posted May 13, 2013 Author Share Posted May 13, 2013 thanks bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Bob is right, but I reckon a Wot4 is much more forgiving than an Acrowot and is better for learning aerobatics as you can get away with more mistakes. Dont worry about it looking ugly it's whether it helps your flying to progress or not. Plan built equivalent like Mike Delacoles Rival or larger version Big Easy might suit. Or the good old Ugly Stik ( online plans for a revised version can be found) Or the plan packs from DB Sport & Scale offer a couple of models with plans and rib sets for about 20 pounds. Sky Rider looks right for your engine, or the smaller Ghost Rider. SLEC have the Funfly or Limbo Dancer kits available again. Edited By kc on 13/05/2013 11:56:21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Hi John I was of very similar thinking to you, wanted to get in the air quickly so got an ARTF to train on but then wanted to build ( which I enjoy as much, if not more than flying! ) As follow on to my Wot4 that I learned to fly with, I built a Sig Four Star 60, it was a a pleasure to build the instructions are fantastic with lots of pictures. It is a great first low wing model so stable and just floats on and on, I have an OS. 65la in mine more than enough for it. I have some pictures of mine in my album Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john melia 1 Posted May 13, 2013 Author Share Posted May 13, 2013 have you got any vids of it flying dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Sorry I haven't John. But if you go on to You Tube website and search for Sig Four Star 60 there is a few videos on there. Sorry would put some links up but I am at work so I am using my phone. If you want to know anymore about it give us a shout. Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 The designer of the Four Star 60 -Bruce Tharpe-has produced a new version called Venture 60 which he sells in USA You can read what he says about the Four Star versus the Venture here I dont think anyone sells the Venture here but it may convince you to buy a Four Star anyway ( if you dont mind the ugly canopy angle ) You can download many Sig manuals here Edited By kc on 13/05/2013 19:58:28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 This is also an interesting read on the Four Star 60 link like KC says the canopy is a bit odd looking, the above website shows a how to make the canopy look a lot better by turning it round and cutting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john melia 1 Posted May 14, 2013 Author Share Posted May 14, 2013 thanks again everyone , think i'll go for the four star 60 ,in the very near future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Well it's not just the canopy that looks odd in the Four Star but the front decking. Check out this article from the old RCM ( USA mag ) which shows a revised nose job. Perhaps not for an inexperienced builder but a good idea for others. I think Pegasus or someone had a big stack of Sig kits at slightly lower prices at Wings and Wheels last year.........worth looking again at the end of June this year as it saves postage too. But otherwise check the price and shipping if you buy direct from Sig in USA allowing for VAT & duty of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john melia 1 Posted May 14, 2013 Author Share Posted May 14, 2013 what a difference a good nose job makes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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